Why I abominate the prosperity gospel

I just love the passion and truth that flows from this preacher. “Lord please let all of us watching this go out as your true disciples.”


22 thoughts on “Why I abominate the prosperity gospel

  1. another really good word from this gentleman. i appreciate his message..it is so timely in this me,me,me age in which we live. thanks for posting vic.

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  2. hisown, i am taking things at face value. what he has said in these clips thus far only uphold the Bible-uphold the cross of Jesus that HE be high and lifted up…and when HE is high and lifted up He will draw men unto Himself. that following Jesus is to pick up your own cross and follow–and we can only truly do that when have been washed in the Blood of Jesus by faith–when we are indwelt by His Spirit who fills the sanctuary of the heart–a repentant tender heart and ear will listen for His Voice alone to follow after and lay down it’s interest in flesh and the world (which are enemies to God) and that is a way of suffering-the narrow Way-by God’s design. phil 3:10, which i know you also love, is exactly the point to sum up what i’m stating and i believe this gentleman is conveying also.
    that is not-repeat not-found in the “social gospel or prosperity gospel”—those are corruptions of the true Gospel. that is what i look for when i listen to a speaker speaking the Bible–is Christ upheld as the One and Only Savior as the One and Only Lord? not of works lest any man should boast? is a message vertical or is it a horizontal slant to Jesus’ beautiful wonderful Words of Life when speaking of His Justifying Work on the Cross and the Sanctifying Work only the Holy Spirit can produce within a human heart?? paul said: i want to know nothing among you but Christ and Him crucified. i know what rick warren and several others are about–they preach a man-centered view of the Gospel. i hear nothing man-centered in what i heard from these posted clips that vic put on his site. if i see or hear differently then that will be another matter.
    i want my heart tender to hear Jesus–His sheep know His Voice so i test all things by Scripture–there is no taint of man in the Purity of God’s Holy Word.

    we must stay sharp and discerning as you well know 😉 to be on the lookout for the deceivers words because he loves to twist the Bible and contort it to veer hearts away from Jesus. the Lord is faithful to warn us to stay close to the Gospel–clinging to the Cross–standing on The Rock.

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  3. Andre’ , the Lord commands us to TEST all spirits. Christ warned that the deception would be so subtle in the end of day’s that if it were possible, even the very elect would be deceived.

    I suppose the gift of discernment is being silenced to the point that not too many are willing to stand up against the AC spirit that’s clearly uniting the daughter’s back to Rome.

    Please hear my heart.

    The RCC AC spirit has mastered it’s lie into this New Calvinism and I suppose I can totally understand the intolerance { and the irritation towards } the true born -again believer .

    I refuse to be silenced.
    It’s a lonely path.
    It’s hard.
    I get it.

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  4. hisown, what did you hear in his message that is slanted against Christ? i didn’t hear anything that adds to, or takes anything away from Jesus. i thought he spoke clearly and carefully to acknowledge the Lord according to Scripture. i don’t have all discernment but i do have the Spirit to guide me to the truth. i was edified by what this man spoke in this post from our brother vic.

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  5. Andre , I haven’t watched the clips posted . Seeing him embrace Warren and join in contemplative prayer with Beth Moore was more than enough for me .

    If we are otherwise minded , God will show us . He has promised . I believe and trust Him to do that in my own life 😋

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  6. Ps 68…
    17 The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands of angels: the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place.

    18 Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the……. Rebellious…… also, that the LORD God might dwell among them.
    Eph 4……
    5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

    6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

    7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

    8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.

    9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

    10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that………….. He……………… might fill all things.)

    That ….HE, Not Us……..might Fill All things.
    None of US are Perfect…..Only His Word Is.

    Perfect Communion is Coming….Soon

    HE will do it……….Not US

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  7. yes, shortribber.
    “HE will do it……….Not US”

    Jesus said in matt 13:24-30:
    24 Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. 26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. 27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.”’”

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  8. ” Perfect Communion is Coming….Soon”

    Is this why the Lord is purging His church? Judgment begins in the house of the Lord.

    For what purpose ?

    So that they we may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness.

    2 Thessalonians 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified—->in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

    He will be GLORIFIED IN His saints.

    I love that .

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  9. I know that what I am about to say will be misunderstood by some.

    Deception is very real in these last days, but sometimes it is turned into a witch hunt by Christians against Christians. This saddens me. I think there is a fine line between discernment and just criticizing.

    I love the teachings of Calvinists like John MacArthur, Paul Washer and John Piper. I love the passion these men have for the Lord. I have never heard that anyone has left the faith because of any of these men’s teachings. They are all human and may sometimes say something that I don’t agree with, but for that I will not label them as false teachers.

    I am all for discernment and protecting the Body of Christ against deception in these last days, but I will not turn against my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. The words of Jesus comes to mind:

    Mark 9:38-40 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbade him, because he followeth not us. But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is on our part.

    If there is anything that John Piper have said in any of the videos that I have posted to make anyone stumble or if he is preaching another Gospel, I will remove the videos.

    PS. Just to make it clear, I am not a Calvinist. I have never studied theology and do not know the difference between Calvinists, Methodists, Presbyterians or Lutherans. I listen to a message and weighs it against the Word of God.

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  10. ” I know that what I am about to say will be misunderstood by some.”

    I’m the only one on this site that shares my concern’s and we all know this is directed to me Boet. No I’m not offended or am I misunderstanding what you’ve written .

    No witch hunting here.

    Walk in wisdom toward them that are without, redeeming the time. Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.
    Colossians 4:5-6

    It’s best that I openly confess that this will be my last comment here. I’ve been under the conviction for the last year or so to do so and stopped posting main headings. That was my own personal choice and shared that in a private e-mail to Vic.

    Please know that I never asked for this calling/gift on my life as it goes 100% against my old nature. The old Coll was foot loose and fancy free and never dared open my mouth against the horrific deceptions I was privy to in the JW cult .She loved her own sin and was caught up in the world’s thirst for wealth, beauty and prestige.

    That all changed the day Christ saved me. Oh what a day that was!

    I do want to end off by saying a big thank-you for allowing me to share my heart during the years and know that you will all still be in my daily prayers .

    I’m a e-mail away if anyone wants to come to me privately if I’ve offended them in any way Vic, I’m sure you won’t mind if they get that info from you. Dankie Boetie 🙂

    I also want to use this opportunity to say that I’m tremendously blessed by the transformation I’ve witnessed in Tony. Tony please know that I pray for you daily and am so blessed by your love and compassion for the hurting, outcast and the rejected. It shows.

    We’re further into the timeline than what most people think and personally believe by the fall of next year that will be better understood by all. The day’s ahead are going to be more trying , dark and diabolical and pray that we are able to WITHstand in the evil day.

    Ephesians 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

    God help us all.

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  11. i have always appreciated that you speak from your heart hisown and that is a heart filled with God’s Word. may we all be given to loving God by loving and obeying the Word of His Testimony, for it is the proof that HE is LORD of us, and by that Testimony written on our hearts, we love one another as He has told us to do.

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  12. Colleen,….Thank You. We shall e- mail,…i’m off to work. You are wonderful in Christ and i wish we lived in the same neighborhood,…ah but we do in Jesus and it makes my heart happy! i love you in the Lord as my sister in Christ and could never say enough about the help you have brought my way…., talk to you soon! Jesus loves you*


  13. Chuck Missler, ”How to avoid deception” on youtube,…doctrine, precision , hermeneutics, etc…….kinda interesting in light of our present situation here. May the Lord keep us all in unity*

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  14. Something that I have noticed for some time is that sincere Christians are living in fear of deception and being deceived. They fear that if they read something or watch some Youtube clip with some error in the teaching that they will be magically deceived and fall from grace. Friends, it is not that easy. The deception is great, but our God is greater! He is the one who keeps you. Listen to what Jesus said:

    Mat 25:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    The key is IF IT WERE POSSIBLE. So Jesus actually said it is NOT possible to deceive the elect.

    So keep your eyes on Jesus. He cares for you. And stay away from the obvious false teachings. Switch of your TBN or God TV money grabbing preacher shows. Stay away from man centered preaching like the Joel Osteens of the world. Find preachers that lift Christ up. And most important, ask Jesus to guide and protect you. You will be save.

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  15. greater is HE that is in me, than he that is in the world, amen?
    the elect are given the endurance to overcome the world…the flesh…and the devil ! …
    …if their eyes are on the Lord Jesus, instead of the lust of the eye, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life. so my heart is told by the Spirit that faith, rather than fear, is to be what moves me. we are to be His entirely–that is daily surrender–laying my own life down to let His Life be lived out from within me.
    yes! greater is HE that is in me, than he that is in the world!!!!!

    thanks for the encouragement brother vic 🙂

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  16. true, true…amen n amen! establish Christ in your heart and let not your mind be corrupted away from the simplicity of the gospel of Christ Jesus!Keep the vision!!!

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  17. that little word “if” is a big word, as you have stated vic. Jesus took all the if out of these things for us because He gave us a Sure Salvation and His Spirit as our Guarantee to seal us in the Sanctifying Power that keeps us on track–heart and mind, body and soul. so if 🙂 we are truly saved, our hope in built upon Christ-He is established in our hearts just like you said tony! we need not fear but trust, that HE will see us through-cutting through the lies that are all around us with His sharp Sword, and lighting the darkness so we can see our way past the enemies traps and snares, while shining the Light that others in darkness can come out of it by faith too.
    i love God’s Plans……and His beautiful Ways, too.
    (and we ain’t seen nothin’ yet 😉 )……

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