I know I may not be very popular after this post{ never have been since being born- again anyways } but please hear my heart. We’re in some pretty serious deceptive days and things are not as they seem. Something evil this way comes.
Evil is called good and good is called evil.
Isa 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
We all know that the world is standing on the brink of a massive diabolical disaster { Satan’s soon expulsion from heaven ?} but are we aware of the more subtle and devious tactics Satan is using to seduce, entice and distract believers? Could it be all part of the soon coming ” image ” of a ” Saviour” that is to accompanied by false signs and wonders” ?
I fear so yes.
There’s a massive spiritual war being waged and if we’re not grounded in the Word of God alone, we WILL fall into the ” even if possible the very elect will be deceived ” category”. I’m afraid many seem to be ” given over ” to a strong delusion already as we witness the reality of God’s Word never returning void . It never does.
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
On the one side we have godly men and woman being ripped away from the diabolical ecumenical apostate church to those in the NAR group that are calling for a ” national spiritual awakening”. Both can’t be correct. Either way one group is clearly deceived. Something is horribly wrong.
Could it all be part of the massive false signs and wonders that the Lord Jesus warned of ?
I fear so yes.
God is not the author of confusion.Which is it? A massive revival or a end- time falling away from the truth of His word and a delusion that God sends ?
I believe it is the latter.
My greatest concern is this ” COMING REVIVAL” which I humbly believe is NOT “holy” but from a counterfeit spirit.
It’s as if we are standing on the brink of a massive ( demonic ? ) shift ( I despise that word ) yet there seems to be a wicked agenda towards a massive “REVIVAL and how men can TAKE America back for God”
Really ?
Shall we test this spirit ?
South Africa-born “revivalist ” Rodney Howard-Browne is joining with Jonathan Cahn and Pastor Mark Biltz in http://celebrateamericadc.com for a massive rally on the ” Third Great Awakening” I fear this is only the beginning of what the Lord Jesus warned us in ” let no man deceive thee”
WASHINGTON — Some religious leaders say America is facing a spiritually dark time.
“At the root of America’s problem, we really have a spiritual cancer that’s been eating away at our nation,” Bishop Harry Jackson, senior pastor of Hope Christian Church in Beltsville, Maryland, told CBN News.
Retired Gen. Jerry Boykin used to fight America’s physical enemies overseas. He’s now working with the Family Research Council fighting spiritual foes.
Boykin said without a Third Great Awakening, forces like those that took down mighty empires of the past will also bring down the United States.
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2014/May/Casting-a-Gospel-Net-Across-the-Nations-Heart/
Celebrate America’s Event Guests Include:
Rodney Howard-Browne
Jonathan Cahn
Pastor Mark Biltz
http://celebrateamericadc.com/wordpress/?page_id=4406
There will be a ” spiritual awakening” but not of the holy kind and I fear for those that are being lulled into this very dangerous and seductive deception.
Are we not being “prepped “for the coming false miracles { all under the guise of being from the Holy Spirit ? }
I fear so yes.
Lord God help us in the days ahead as we face even greater persecution from those that will kill us thinking they’re doing God a service.
Who among us will stand ?
UNSEALED PROPHECY 
I agree with you that there is a coming (or already here) false revival with false signs that can look holy but is not. For example, see this story on the Kundalini Spirit vs. the Holy Spirit. I have been in Kundalini-infested churches, and it is scary. I think just about every charismatic church these days has a Kundalini infestation. http://thelasthiker.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/the-kundalini-spirit-vs-the-holy-spirit/
However, I don’t feel like Jonathan Cahn or Mark Biltz fits into this category. Just curious about your reasons why you think they might? One is a Messianic Jew and the other is a leading teacher on Hebrew Roots. Neither performs signs or wonders, but instead strives to ground people in the whole Bible, showing where Jesus is in the Old Testament.
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Hello Dianne. Welcome @ Vic’s place.Pull up a chair and stay awhile , great to have you here 🙂
You said ” I have been in Kundalini-infested churches, and it is scary. I think just about every charismatic church these days has a Kundalini infestation.”
Praise God He has taken you out of these , I would love to know how long you stayed before you ran 🙂
Time is not my best friend right now and will ask you to prayerfully seek the Lord on the NAR as well as PATRIOTIC IDOLATRY that’s clearly the initiative here. My question is WHY is Jonathan Cahn and Mark Biltz one of the speakers in this massive rally? That’s rhetorical anyways for me 🙂
You may start here 🙂
PATRIOTIC IDOLATRY: “AMERICA FOR JESUS,” THE NAR AND JONATHAN CAHN
http://apprising.org/2012/08/18/patriotic-idolatry-america-for-jesus-the-nar-and-jonathan-cahn/
The Hebrew Roots Cult Movement – Part 2
Hatred for Christians and the Apostle Paul
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/writers/GG/the-hebrew-roots-cult-part-2.htm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGMG_PVaJoI — have kept this handy for years to remind myself. goes right to the point.
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Wow, thanks. Very interesting! Kundalini–not long. Certainly not long enough to catch it! I don’t know what to say about johnathan cahn, but having read mark blitz at length myself, I can tell you that article grossly misquotes him, takes his words out of context, and distorts his message. I tried to click on the link to the original source material, and it is deleted. While I’m aware of Hebrew roots movements that are Paul-haters, I don’t think he is one of them. And he certainly does not advocate a return to Torah law. Rather, he talks about how the Torah and feasts were a shadow of things to come. By understanding these feasts and the old laws, we get a better understanding of the prophecies relating to Jesus. For example, Jesus fulfilled all four of the Hebrew spring feasts at his first coming. In his writings, he talks about how the first Christians (3000 Jews who converted on Pentecost) would have interpreted the events of Jesus’ death and resurrection through the Torah lens. In other words, he shows how the Torah both foreshadows and prophesies about Christ. He is just trying to give today’s Christians the whole picture–the same picture the Jews in Jesus’s time would have seen. In effect, he uses the Torah to prove the divinity of Christ. Biltz states in his writing that he does not believe it is necessary to keep Torah, but by understanding it, we gain a much richer knowledge of God. If God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow, the Torah is not totally irrelevant. Many of the stories in it are actually prophetic foreshadowings of the messiah–living pictures of the salvation that was to come. So by understanding it, it’s like we can see this picture of Jesus in much more detail and color than we get through the gospels alone. That’s his message, not Paul-hating, Sunday hating, Christian hating, or anything else like that.
I have also read his writing on the five foolish virgins, and I do not at all remember him even mentioning anything about Sunday Christians. I note that the writer of the linked article acknowledged that that comment was double hearsay, anyway. It just doesn’t sound like something Biltz would say.
Anyway, all that to say, I feel like I’ve learned a lot of important stuff from Biltz that has even deepened my faith in Jesus, and it saddens me to see him so thoroughly misquoted. It was fascinating to learn through him how the Torah and Jewish feasts are actually all about Jesus–it’s information every Jew and Christian alike should know. The enemy does not want us to know how much of the Old Testament is about Jesus… because once you do, any shred of doubt you ever may have had gets ripped away. Everyone needs to read Biltz for him or herself and not take the say so of other people as gospel.
What’s he doing at that conference? I don’t know. Maybe just trying to spread the word?
Apologies for typos–on mobile
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Ps, I am not a member of the Hebrew Roots movement, and I do not believe it is necessary to keep the law or the feasts or to go to church on Saturday. Biltz writes that he is in agreement with all three of those things, but that he likes to keep the feasts because they are relevant to Jesus. He does not believe it is necessary for salvation and does not consider it mandatory, so he does not advocate a heretical return to the law at all. I am so sad he has been mischaracterized in this way, because the historical significance of what he presents is so astounding and valuable. The feasts are about Jesus. The first four prophesied his first coming and the last three prophesy his second coming, and that is not something a lot of modern day Christians know! But you bet the first Jewish Christians knew it.
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As for the blood moons, Biltz never said they would signal the start of the tribulation or the rapture. That’s an internet rumor that got picked up and distorted like a children’s game of “telephone.” Really, I’m amazed at how many lies are being told about this man that are verifiably false if you just take time to read and listen to the whole of what he actually said! Hagee is another story–I’m not a fan of that guy. But I was so blessed by Biltz, and it just grieves me to read those outright lies and statements taken completely out of context. Okay, that is all. I probably will not be back for awhile as I am scheduled for surgery shortly. If any of you feel inclined to keep me in your prayers, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Diane I will pray for your healing and speedy recovery. Please come back soon 🙂
Blitz has made some pretty serious cash off his promotion{ of the blood moons } and the suggestion of coming events to Israel { if this is so why didn’t the Lord do this just prior to the holocaust and the events of 70 AD etc etc? } that’s rhetorical anyways 🙂
As mentioned before, time is not my friend right now and unless something changes in that area of my life I would have to trust in knowing that the Lord will lead you to His truth and His word alone in the coming deception and tribulation.
I take this verse very seriously to heart and am weary to place MAN’S wisdom { our idols } above God’s Word.
Let every man be a liar and God alone be true. It’s that’s simple 🙂
Eze 14:3
Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart, and put the stumblingblock of their iniquity before their face: should I be enquired of at all by them?
Eze 14:4
Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; ……..>>>>>>>>>I the LORD will answer him that cometh according>>>>>>>>>> to the multitude of his idols;
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Oh Lord God help us!
So many are already under a strong delusion and as sad as that sounds this has been because they’ve placed men { and their doctrines } above the Word of God.
Is this not why He would choose their delusions?
They LOVED NOT His word right?
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The Lord is calling me to test the spirit of this ” call to repentance ” that’s buzzing all around the US of A’s Christian Right / NAR circles and pray that we will stand in the days ahead as we reflect and ponder the sobering words of Christ in :
John 16:2 KJV
They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh , that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
This has been diabolically planned for a very long time as the Ecumenical lie has been fuelled by the RCC spirit. May the reader ask ” where did it all begin and by whom”. It may shake a few of us up a little as we’ve placed men { our Idols } over God. Shame on us!
This has been a long time coming as the enemy has diabolically been diverting and distracting us by falsehoods and phoney seductive “natural brute beasts”. I could never understand those words penned by Peter in his second epistle but do now.
These are men that have NOT the spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ indwelling them but are IMPOSTORS who hide their evil intentions behind a mask of great swelling words of vanity!
While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
But these, as ……>>>>>>>natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
2Pe 2:13
And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
Jde 1:12
These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Guy’s there is a ” THIRD AWAKENING ” spirit that’s about to be unleashed on this earth and it’s of the unholy kind. Did the Lord Jesus not warn us beforehand that the rise of the AC spirit will be accompanied with false signs and wonders that IF possible the very elect will be deceived!
We are so there!
I received a scripture txt from a sister in Christ this morning that I agree 100% with and which has been affirmed countless times when praying on the soon coming judgement on the USof A. Sorry guys if that ” pricks ” you the wrong way but she is already under judgment. Yes the whole world is going down the drain but God has weighed the US in the balances of His hand’s and has found her ” wanting”.
God will mock and laugh at the soon calamity. How sobering is that! Why?
They would …..>>>>none of my counsel: they…..>>>> despised all my reproof. Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be….>> filled with their own devices
Proverbs 1:24- 33 and would add 1Th 5:3 to that!
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
Isaiah chapter 47 ?
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Lord God help us!
POPE FRANCIS PRAYED OVER BY 50,000 CHARISMATICS SPEAKING IN TONGUES
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QUOTE, “I would think as far as the antichrist is concerned, the progression is more important than the endgame, because the progression sets up the contingencies that
need to be in play to set up the endgame, the endgame is a forgone conclusion, it’s
getting there that is a major factor!”
Keep firing with both barrels HISOWN!
Be blessed!
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Amen and amen Watchman2! It’s a subtle diabolical distortion that will catch many unawares , but those that KNOW their God shall be STRONG ! I love that 🙂
Do you guys remember the Latter Rain / “Joel’s Army” movement of a few years back? Well it’s about to be resurrected with a diabolical agenda. One of “they will kill you thinking they’re doing God a ” service ” . God’s warned that in the end of days , men will deceive and BE deceived ! Evil is good and good is evil. Twisted and diabolical. By their fruits we will know them. Oh Lord God help us to stand in the evil days ahead.
2Ti 3:13
But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
No wonder these men and women love to quote verses such as this one in *Revelation as they deceive themselves into thinking they’re some anointed ” army ” with special powers that have been given authority { sic} OVER God’s people to usher in this Kingdom now.
*Rev 12:5
And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
A very powerful article by Bob DeWaay that’s a must read 🙂
“The Roots and Fruits of the New Apostolic Reformation- Bob DeWaay
The differences between the Latter Rain Movement and the New Apostolic Reformation mostly have to do with terminology, not doctrine. In the 1980s, a teaching circulated amongst those who attend conferences put on by those in the prophetic movement called “a new breed of man.” The basic idea is that ordinary Christians throughout church history had been colossal failures and that God was going to fall upon certain persons by His Holy Spirit and “impregnate” them so that they could “give birth” to something entirely new. The “new breed of man” would be exalted saints with holiness and power never known before.
http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue103.htm
http://apprising.org/2010/06/09/the-roots-and-fruits-of-the-new-apostolic-reformation/
The claim was that Joel 2:1-11 predicts that the end time church will be “Joel’s Army” that will execute God’s judgments on the earth. This is another false Latter Rain teaching that Bill Hamon still propagates. Here is his claim:
The saints are being trained now in the military bases of international training centers and their local church armories. The goal is to have them taught, equipped and field trained to be the officers that lead God’s army of prophetic evangelist saints during the coming Saints Movement. They will minister under the covering and leadership of fivefold apostolic and prophetic generals who trained them. These saints will function like God’s army prophetically described by Prophet Joel (Joel 2:1-11).
According to NOLR and NAR teachers, the kingdom of God is established by the church during history and before the parousia. Hamon writes, “Now let us begin to pray earnestly that the full dominion of His literal kingdom be established in all reality over all nations and people of the earth. . . They will pray and declare that it is time for God’s kingdom to be established over all the earth by the divine delegated authority and ministry of Christ’s Church.
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Hi All,
this is a new biostamp made by MC10 that can be used for buying and selling and heaps of other uses like medical etc.
“Regina Dugan, senior vice president for advanced technology and products at Motorola Mobility (GOOG), demonstrated how MC10’s BioStamp could be used to verify a person’s identity to a computer or mobile device. Users now rely on key chain fobs or credit-card-size displays that authenticate a user’s access. But wearing a flexible microprocessor that contains an encrypted code could put that function directly on your skin. ”
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-06-13/mc10s-biostamp-the-new-frontier-of-medical-diagnostics
http://www.mc10inc.com/
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Digital pills..
http://www.proteus.com/technology/digital-health-feedback-system/
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/425962/Digital-pill-tells-doctors-if-patients-are-taking-their-drugs-right
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My KINGDOM is not of this world”,……JESUS
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Colleen, your comments along w/ watchman 2’s comment are so noteworthy,…entirely! now to look into La freaks comment, looks interesting for sure. /// also colleen, have you ever visited the crosswise website that Craig runs? please do…i believe its at http://www.crosswise.com . good luck, rather be blessed
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notunlikelee.wordpress.com there is the crosswise link, the thing above takes you elsewhere,…my bad
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http://www.notunlikelee.wordpress.com
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Watching and praying deep deception everywhere.
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What a sad reality that certainly is Roma.Even if possible the very elect will be deceived.Men deceiving and BEING deceived.God help us to stand!
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Old news by now, but take note of what’s transpired over the past few weeks since the inception of this.
Pope Francis Met Televangelists Kenneth Copeland and …
http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/ … llows.html
False Teacher Kenneth Copeland Wants To Unite With The
My defiant stand against this Roman Catholic led Anti Christ ecumenical spirit has once again caused me to be the enemy. It’s cost me almost all that I love but give the Lord all the glory for being counted worthy to be ” tested ” to see if I would succumb to the ” pressure ” of all those around me. Praise God His own will NOT be enticed by this false jesus as he’s not only a impostor but a counterfeit as well.His agents are diabolically genius. TAKE HEED that ye stand LEST ye fall!
God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it
Sadly, so many are already under the strong delusion that they’re heaping unto themselves TEACHERS that will tickle their ears and tell them sweet little lies. Not much has changed from Jeremiah’s day. The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so Jer 5:31
Lord God help us to stand the day’s ahead.
Please take note of the words “entice thee secretly”and the danger of “PROTECTING and CONCEALING in these verses.
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him
Deu 13:6- Deu 13:9
Is there anyone in your life { a loved one, a family member, a spouse , a friend } that you protect? that you cover, excuse their unbiblical behaviour ? if so you’ve been enticed or how does the Word of God say it again ” BEGUILED ” Sorry!
Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of
devils.1Co 10:21
CHOOSE THIS DAY WHO YOU WILL SERVE. Judgement MUST BEGIN in the house of God 1Pe 4:17. No apology there 🙂
The Lord reminded me yet again of the DANGER of being DECEIVED by false prophets/ brethren . It may COST you your life. It almost did mine.Praise God there are no *LION’s here in Canada, but Satan does prowl around as one. He kills, steals and destroys through his { false } ministers ministers of righteousness 2Co 11:15 Satan already sits on the SEAT of the congregation Isa 14:13
*1Ki 13:1- 1Ki 13:34
But I fear, least by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ” (2 Corinthians 11:3)
“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed” (Galatians 1:6-8).
And Jesus answered and said unto them, take heed that no man deceive you.
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please delete this from comments if the spirit moves you to do so Vic, however i urge you to give it the time of day Colleen, Rob, Andrea, etc… it makes sense and i see it as appropriately presented without bad taste and very sincere. please view it w/ an open mind and a receptive spirit and correct me if you feel it to be necessary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L4UvkoSqR8
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After years of watching for signs of the AC i came across this video on you tube. There is a heap of others by different people regarding who they think might be. I watch them and try to come to a conclusion but as you all know trying to pinpoint who the actually person might be is very very hard.
But in saying that check this video out. They aren’t saying it is the AC but points to Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (Turkish Prime Minister), I do know that Turkey was part of the old roman empire and the video could be on track. Also kind of makes sense that the AC could rise from Islam considering the population of the religion on the planet. I still look at the EU but cant dismiss this theory completely. Just like the Solana theory and the whole EU theory.
This site has a article that does make sense and looks at the reality “Antichrist does not rule the entire globe as is commonly thought, nor is he the ruler of the most powerful nation on earth.”
http://shoebat.com/2013/02/23/prophecy-what-lies-ahead/
But when the bible was written Turkey was part of the Roman Empire.
http://www.roman-empire.net/maps/empire/extent/rome-modern-day-nations.html
Just posting this because although most prophecy sites look at the EU directly, cant rule out the other theory’s.
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Lafreak,
Hang on a second here. Doesn’t Walid Shoebat hold to the view that Islam is the MARK of the Beast?
Come on people. Seriously !
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I’m with you, Lafreak. Hisown–no, Shoebat says the headbands and wristbands devout Muslims wear as a sign of loyalty to Islam are the mark. They are, after all, inscribed with a mark of loyalty to a religious and political regime that is worn on the foreheads and arms. That fits the bill. And, in fact, already in some areas of the Islamic world, you cannot buy or sell unless you’re wearing the bands. That’s a growing trend.
While I agree that there are many deceiving spirits and false doctrines loose within the church, I do not believe the antichrist will profess that Christ is the Son of God. This rules out the Pope or any Christian church leader as a candidate. My basis for this belief is 1 John 4:2: This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God.
Meanwhile, if you were to visit the Dome of the Rock and look up at the inscription on the underside of that golden monstrosity, you would read the words: “Far be it from God that he should have a son.” You can’t get any more anti-Christ than that. In one of their most important religious buildings, they don’t even bother to praise their particular God–instead they choose to deny Christ.
Moreover, the antichrist system’s main goal, according to numerous scriptures, is to destroy Israel. No one in the world today professes a desire to utterly destroy Israel except the Muslim nations. If indeed we are in the last days, Islam fits the antichrist system’s mold much better than any sort of European coalition. Joel richardson’s book, The Islamic Antichrist, goes into great detail about the biblical descriptions of the Antichrist and how they line up perfectly with the Islamic Mahdi (messiah). It is a fascinating read.
That said, I could, however, see the Pope as a false prophet, especially considering that he opened up the Vatican to host Islamic prayer a few weeks ago.
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I also would like to copy and paste a comment I made on a previous thread along these same lines:
Yes, I think we’re missing something, and that is because we are reading the Bible from a Western perspective when it was written from a Middle Eastern point of view.
Regarding the revived Roman empire, I believe this is an erroneous teaching, and I will quote Joel Richardson in explaining why:
Revelation 17:9-11: This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while. The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.
Now the seven heads are called seven mountains. The Bible often uses mountains as a symbol representing a kingdom or an empire. But most importantly this passage gives us insight into the fact that, before Jesus returns, there will actually have been a total of eight “beast” empires. The eighth empire will be ruled by the Antichrist. How can this passage help us gain insight into the identification of the final empire of the Antichrist? First, we see that at the time that John wrote this passage, five of the empires had already fallen. This is seen in the phrase “five have been.” These empires are generally accepted by Bible teachers as the following:
1. The Egyptian Empire
2. The Assyrian Empire
3. The Babylonian Empire
4. The Persian Empire
5. The Greek Empire
After these five, the angel tells John that one empire “is.” At the time that John wrote the book of Revelation, Rome “was.” It ruled the Middle East, Northern Africa, and much of Europe. Thus the sixth empire was the Roman Empire. The next empire, of course, is the seventh, and then the eighth will be the empire of the Antichrist. So the seventh empire is the empire that we need to identify, because according to the verse, the eighth empire will be a resurrected or a revived version of the seventh empire: “The beast who once was, and is not, is an eighth king.” Let me just paraphrase this portion for clarity: “The seventh beast [empire] that existed, but then did not exist, will come back as an eighth empire.”
Joel goes on to explain that the Antichrist empire cannot be a revived Roman empire because it was the sixth empire, not the seventh.
He then explains that the seventh empire is the Turk/Ottoman (Islamic) empire, which came after the Roman empire and ruled over the entire Middle East until 1923, when the Turkish Islamic caliphate was officially abolished. Today the Islamic world awaits the restoration of that caliphate. (which explains ISIS).
Meanwhile, the Antichrist cannot literally rule the WHOLE world, because the Bible says he will make war against the strongest nations. If he is literally ruling the WHOLE world, then who is he fighting at Armageddon? He will have enemies at the very last battle, which by definition means he is not literally the supreme ruler of the whole earth. If we look at the original Greek and Hebrew, we see that these “WHOLE world” word constructs are actually a sort of hyperbole that does not mean literally the entire earth, but a very large part of it.
Don’t take my word for it. Prayerfully do the research. I think you might be amazed. Consider–if these are the end times, as so many Christians believe, why is Europe so quiet while the Middle East is in absolute turmoil? The Middle East is ripe for a conflagration so bad that a “savior” will come along and promise peace, and he will get broad support. But as we know, it will be a false peace…
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I know he has a few different views and im not saying what he said is right by any means. But its just another theory and every theory is worth at least a look.
People don’t agree with each other on this site and fulfilled prophecy with certain posts, but doesn’t mean they are right or wrong.
You should know the theory i follow and think will happen is the EU one regarding Solana and the WEU and ENP etc.
But what if part of what he says he right like the Turkey part? I don’t agree with everything he said but i read it and anyway.
Some people don’t think the false prophet will be a man and others think he will be.
Some think the GOG MAGOG war might be before Jesus return and others think it might be near the end of the 1000 year millennium.
I posted it because its good to at least have a view about something might be right even only 1% possibility of happening.
cheers
🙂
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Hi Dianne,
You said ” While I agree that there are many deceiving spirits and false doctrines loose within the church, I do not believe the antichrist will profess that Christ is the Son of God. This rules out the Pope or any Christian church leader as a candidate”
NOBODY at this site holds to this view either and wonder if you assumed that about my concerns about the Pope’s visit to Israel and the upsurge in prophetic events since then?
There is a religious component to the mark of the beast yes and believe the evangelical and Roman Catholic ecumenical move’s one goal is to join with the Muslims. Since the Pope’s return things have turned ugly, we need to ask ” why”!
Please note I’m not endorsing this poster ” Nephtali1981″ {I don’t have time to go through any other of his postings } but here is a small glimpse of the second beast that has risen up uniting the three into ONE DIABOLICAL religion.If you can stand to watch please note how subtle Satan has been to usher in this one global religion.Spirits of frogs and a cage of every hateful bird.
I will répond to other concerns as time permits but needed to clarify this first 🙂
Love and blessings.
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@Lafreak, I gotcha! Yes, I agree it is important to look at and consider all viewpoints!
@Hisown, yes, thank you for clarifying. I was confused. I completely agree the ecumenical spirit is very, very dangerous and will contribute to the Antichrist regime. Allah and Jehovah are not the same God. Period. They are opposite. The deception on the Muslim side of the religion is so massive that when Christ actually appears, everyone of the Muslim faith is set up to believe the real Christ will be THEIR “Antichrist,” who they call the Dajaal. The entire Muslim world believes they must fight against him and try to kill him in the last day. That is why when Christ appears, there will be so much blood. The Muslims are primed to receive the miraculous appearance of Christ, but they believe he will be the Devil!
Another thing I think is possible is that after a huge middle east conflagration, when a leader appears with a peace plan, Europe and the entire world could buy into it. Thus when the whole world says “peace and safety, peace and safety…” (1 Thessalonians 5:3)
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Agreed Diane!
You said “Another thing I think is possible is that after a huge middle east conflagration, when a leader appears with a peace plan, Europe and the entire world could buy into it. Thus when the whole world says “peace and safety, peace and safety…” (1 Thessalonians 5:3)”
Or as Bro Brian has stated a ” cease-fire that ensures security”. I agree!!
This soon sudden destruction event will wake the unwise virgins up but unfortunately it will be too late. How sad is that !
Also please note that we’ve been hypnotized by a IMAGE of Jesus Christ that’s not a biblical depiction of him { the RCC ChristMASS hottie } and many are already under the strong delusion to believe this is how Christ will look when he appears. Sad thing is he’s a IMPOSTOR.
Do your own google search image on ” mahdi Jesus” and see how much this one looks like the Muslim mahdi 😦
Also note that even the Jehovah Witnesses ” Jesus ” has the same features. Goggle ” Jehovah witness jesus”
The night is far spent let’s cast off the works of darkness!
Rom 13:12
The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
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this is indian country*
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I’ve wrestled with this* verse in Deut 13 for 7 yrs and have only now come to understand the fullness of it .
How does one get enticed by another “God” in this day and age? Easy, very easy.
When someone you love { God goes as far a labelling even one’s SPOUSE } tries to entice you into the doctrines of another jesus and a another gospel, the Lord is using that one to prove how much you really love Him. I praise the Lord God for testing me in this to see if I love the Lord God with my whole mind, body and soul and to love Him above all else. I love just it!
*If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods
Praise the Lord that there are among us a few that are called out from the False Harlot Apostate Church system.It may cost you all that you love. It has me.
*Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
People wake up. Connect the dots. Who , when and where !
Another apostate ministry confirmed! God help us in the days ahead.
Deuteronomy 13
13 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
4 Ye shall walk after the Lord your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the Lord your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the Lord thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
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sick and wrong no matter how you slice it. 😦
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Sorry for SP in above post.
Amen Andre!
Satan’s agenda is to ENTICE , DISTRACT and DIVERT your attention away . Almost like the slight of hand trick to get one’s focus elsewhere…how diabolically genius of him and his ministers!
He is the master of deception and those that are under his influence can’t help themselves as they only OBEY the LUST’S of their father the devil. John 8 : 44
Praise God that those that are KNOWN by Christ are KEPT by Him. Whew 🙂
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Quote, ” The wickedness of deception is that it is designed to turn the TRUTH into a lie and the LIE into the truth, thereby seperating people from GOD and his TRUTH, which in turn is what is ultimately Satan’s agenda!”
keep firing with both barrels HISOWN!
Be blessed!
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I usually don’t post replies on blogs but I feel like I should say something here. Jesus sent us on a Great Commission. It is our responsibility to spread the Gospel until he returns. Whether he comes back next week or next century is irregardles, because we need to be fulfilling that Great Commission. Therefore we should all be on our knees begging God for a revival, not hindering one by saying it must be of the evil one. Instead of trying to prevent revival, why not be on the front lines helping to usher it in by proclaiming Salvation through Christ? It is high time the church threw away its silliness, stopped being lukewarm and began to win people to Christ.
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thanks Jason,….i know what you mean,…let us press on to the Higher calling*! Once we are in Christ, there is nuthin’ to fear but fear itself,…so let us fearlessly go forth – wise as serpents , gentle as doves, with the drums of the spirit of God and with the heart of a lion
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….with our hearts beating as ONE, amen.
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Sorry if this is a sloppy response as I try to access the comments ” on the go”but could you please show me in God’s word where He said there would be a massive revival in these end times?
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however massive i sure cant say Colleen, but revival, in my opinion, will certainly come on some level as we ‘strive for ideals’ in connection with the inner workings of the Holy Spirit – even as we are renewed daily as the inner yearning continues….. and the flame stays alive whike the world cannot kill the fire that burns inside. Perhaps Jason is speaking of Revival that defines itself differently than the ? revival i refer to. I sense that in connection w/ the 2 witnesses revival* will flourish, Furthermore i would say that its rather impossible for us not to aspire to REVIVAL,…its keeping the faith, ALIVE., …till the day comes when we shall mount up …. and run and not grow weary!
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spelling error-sorry- thats ‘while’, and not whike……while the world cannot kill the fire that burns inside.
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