In case there was any doubt…

In case there was any doubt who the woman on the beast is in Revelation – The EU would like to clear that up for you by putting it on their currency.


Many have speculated as two the identity of these two – I refer you to Mr. Baldy’s previous posts on the two beasts (1. the Beast Kingdom, 2. the Antichrist)

We know that the first beast has it’s mortal wound healed by the second beast.

I have heard many theories of who the woman on the Beast is – from the Catholic church to New York to certain other religions. I’d like to suggest another alternative – She represents the pinnacle of man’s attempts to believe he provides for himself without God – She is the world financial system. If you read Revelation 17 carefully – see how many times luxuries, and gold, and the greek pornea – which can mean sexual immorality or idolatry are mentioned. Who other than the kings over whom she ruled mourn her – the merchants who can no longer buy our sell their luxuries – because the kings of the earth have destroyed her by rejecting their commitments to repay their enormous debts to their creditors.

Now her tragedy will be celebrated on the EU currency – the currency that will be the first to rise from the ashes of financial collapse brought on by the refusal to honor their debt, the first to rise under the control of the second beast.

I could be wrong – but it’s something I think bears watching.


88 thoughts on “In case there was any doubt…

  1. Yep I see your point however one only has to look at the church to see the Beast or better still the church is the Whore who has perverted herself with Idolotary and honouring it’s higher members like saints


  2. Dr Dennis Cuddy’s research points to a world currency known as the pheonix [speaking of rising from the ashes] due for, ? 2018 ???,…for what its worth. He’s quite a researcher held in high reguard. all so very well documented.


  3. ..seems like the little angel is telling the woman……..a secret! , besides that, the woman is looking back, instead of frontwards to the direction the beast is traveling???, whats up with that?!!


  4. …funny Sheep, how you made mention of her “celebrating her tragedy”,……..i wonder if she is gloating in her defeat?,……is that allowed?


  5. i wonder if the little angel is telling her that she’d better get over it,…and turn around and watch where she’s-a-goin’!,..before the beast leads her astray or crashes into something.


  6. she acts like the beast knows what its doing,…and knows where its going. She either trusts the beast, or shes just being mad as heck and acting like she just doesn’t care anymore,…or perhaps she really just don’t care!


  7. and shes seductive,…..half dressed and all,….she gathers attention. geeze, i’m just stating the obvious, so whats new?…………………………………………..Flee youthful lust


  8. Tony I read all of Dennis Cuddy’s articles on the Power Elite, etc and others. He is great in my opinion in all of his research on these things. One thing for sure I feel in my spirit that soon we are all going to know a lot more than we do right now. Things seem to be moving quickly.


  9. Thanks for this article Rob.

    The article is just yet another “road sign” to let us know that we are living in the last days. The Book of Revelation is highly symbolic, and it contains mysteries that most don’t understand.

    As I’ve continued to study the Return of Christ, I have become convinced of a few things:

    1) The Return of Christ happens at the end of the tribulation – and then, and only then are we gathered unto Him to meet Him in the air.
    2) I believe that the bible speaks in plain language when it mentions that the Church of Christ will be persecuted – it won’t be limited to the EU and the Eastern World.
    3) Many will fall from the faith because they will want to survive – they won’t be prepared to give their life for the testimony of Jesus Christ; so they will want to keep their jobs; their homes; and to eat.

    If we view what’s going on in the World, especially the United States people want ease, comfort, and the quickness of life, so much so, that they won’t even take the time to enjoy the simple things. I had a friend of mine tell me that his daughter couldn’t even tell time on a standard clock – she needed a digital one. I also had the experience of going to a McDonald’s, and I gave this young lady the exact change amount accompanied by a larger bill denomination to cover the cost of the meal, and she couldn’t figure out that I was to get a whole dollar amount back in return. I’m mentioning these two examples to let you all know how dependant society has become on the fast pace of this World’s economy, computers, digital electronics, fast food…etc. But man is resilient, even if there were a loss of these things, he will find a way to survive – question is: at what cost?

    We have a re-elected President of the United States; a collapsing world economy; wars; global warming; and a EU that has shown us that their currency will be depicted as a woman riding on a beast – sound familiar? All of these things are not mere coincidence. The World is changing – and if you’re not careful, you’ll fall right into this ever changing trap. The trap is not knowing God – as man replaces Him with mammon, self-reliance, and the ease of life.

    As the fourth and final Empire rises, and the currencies are forced to unite – watch a single man arise, and take control. I sincerely don’t believe that there will be two End Time players – but only one. He will be the Antichrist.


  10. A great sifting is about to take place the wheat from the chaff, the sheep from the goats, but those who are truly His will not fall away. He is Author and Finisher of our faith. All that the Father gives to Him will come to Him and He will not lose one of them! Glory!


  11. Mr. Baldy, I can’t help but read the last paragraph of what you wrote:

    “As the fourth and final Empire rises, and the currencies are forced to unite – watch a single man arise, and take control. I sincerely don’t believe that there will be two End Time players – but only one. He will be the Antichrist.”

    And then I read this Tweet today from our good doctor JS:

    JS Tweet
    The sheer diversity of this mixed-up world. More than ever, that must include the diversity to be found inside a single skin,heart and mind

    I don’t know what to make of that because of translation but it hit my “creepy radar”. Just sayin. >> PopaJay


  12. the thing that caught me in mr.Baldys post,the most,was the thing about mammon, self reliance and ease of life,………………..boy i sure would not want to be caught by that./ now that could do a lot of catching/ good bait. JESUS and His Blood Sacrafice…again, needs to be mentioned here. KEEP THE FAITH,….LORD KEEP US WHERE YOU ARE


  13. All I can say is Wow!

    Thanks for the link Hisown…… As I first viewed Javier Solana speaking I thought to myself, why is this guy talking the way he is? Then in viewing the very words that he was speaking, (I can’t understand Spanish) I thought to myself: this World Wide Sovereignty issue with the EU being the model, that he mentions – as the EU Nations “voluntarily” gave up their sovereignty is probably leading to the “lie” or very strong delusion that the World will believe in order for the coming Antichrist to take control.

    As we gain more understanding to End Time prophecy, I am reminded of the fantasy like stories that the Pre-Tribulation Rapture doctrine has told – only to fool many. This is not to bad mouth anyone who may still believe in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, as it had me fooled for a time as well, but it is to bring truth to this nonsense that still plagues many true believers of Christ. It’s certainly not a personal attack.

    I’m bringing the issue with the Pre-Tribulation doctrine up because in it, many, many, lies have been told in order that this non-biblical heresy may apply. One of course is that the Church will not go through the Tribulation period. Others are: that there is a 7 year Tribulation period; a third Temple has to be built; the Antichrist will have a statue made of himself that will talk, and everyone in the World will bow down to worship it; a World Wide Religion will take effect; the Elect are different from the Tribulation Saints, or Believers in Christ altogether…and last but certainly not least is, (and this it totally my very humble opinion) that there will be a False Prophet who will accompany the coming Antichrist in his evil deeds. This thought process was also applied to a so-called “unholy Trinity” – making up Satan, the Antichrist, and the False Prophet; in order that it would mimic God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Where this line of thinking surfaced from in the Pre-Tribulation camp, I have no idea – but the term “unholy Trinity” cannot be found in the Bible; without “reading into” Scripture. I now believe that it has been used by men to gain monetary profit.

    Many things that I am personally learning, that derived from Pre-Tribulation Rapture-like thinking are just not true. People of God, please study these things for yourselves – please come to your own conclusions, without the aide of men who stand to gain money, or to be puffed up with pride.

    In viewing Javier Solana speaking, I still believe that someone of his caliber, will rise from the European Union, who will speak like him, have a plan like him, and will be able to fool those who hold the keys to the Fourth and Final Empire – and the keys of this Beast Kingdom will be handed to that person, because Scripture says so. Look for one End Time Player, (maybe Solana himself) – as Scripture warns us that it is he that must be revealed (along with the apostasy) before our gathering unto Christ – and not an additional person.


  14. Amen Baldy!!

    The points you brought up are so important in understanding the very sad reality of where we are in the midst of this great apostasy. The enemy has managed to sneak in his heretical teaching that has so many under it’s seductive spel and yes Satan has a doctrine too ye know! one of demons 😦

    My heart weeps when I see the 7 yr/ rebuilt/peace ” vain tradition” still being religiously endorsed and ” pushed” and have agonized over this to the point of despair, but the Lord has promised He would reveal this His own and that it is not in our power to change their view. The Lord has clearly shown me to stop even trying!

    There is another ” jesus” that has been promoted for way to long now and the sheep are waking up to the shocking reality of what that all entails.

    Phl 3:15 — Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

    Guys I don’t know how it is around your neck of the words, but there seems to be an intense increase of spiritual deception, fraud and wickedness. Those of us that refuse to compromise are being ” signalled out” as if we have some form of leprosy for daring to ” judge” the state of the church and the lives of those around us that name the name of ” Jesus”

    Like what is this already?

    No more SILENCING of the LAMBS!!


  15. Boy Hisown this hits so close to home, I have made my statements clearly in what this last vote was about, not about just a man and another man,but a party platform, that supports abortion to full term, euthansia, same sex marriage etc and took the word God out of their platform and then were forced to put back in. Not that this thing mattered but again in America we did have the freedom to vote, and it is not an american pride thing, cause I do not have that. We did however have a good freer system for growth and personal choices etc for a long time, and many came here for religious freedom from the RCC and The Anglican or english monarch church. Anyway, my statement was that those calling themselves christian needed to take out their bible and see if they can support either side, boy did I get lambasted by my own family for being evil because I had a differing opinion on this election. and they can call themselves chrisitan and it is between them and god alone and I have no right to judge etc, I am a hater, unkind, impatient etc etc etc. Anyways, I had tried to convince myself that many did not know the party difference etc, and what they stood for. But either way I posted Dietrich Bonhoeffer a pastor of the confessing church who came out of the state sanctioned Lutheran Church in Nazi Germany, whose statement is this:

    Silence in the face of evil, is in itself evil, God will not hold us guiltless, not to speak is to speak, not to act is to act. Dietrich Bonhoeffer

    This man and his family grew up as Hitler came to power in Germany and never supported or voted for him or his party. He as a pastor rising in the church of the day, had to make a choice, he knew Hitler was not right, and remained passive as far as doing anything against him except for preaching the truth in his church, then he came to American and could have stayed here. But he did not, he went back and was recruited to work with a group who tried to get Jews out. He was arrested and sent to concentration camp, where he preached and ministered to the guards and prisoners there.

    Well anyone can look him up, but this is the thing, he was executed the day before the war ended, in a horrible way.

    I care not which man is in charge, but I have been involved for many years, and the oly reason I got involved in the Republican party was the stance against abortion, euthanisia etc, which the church at the time was crying out against. I marched, I went to clinics and stood outside and prayed. Signed petitions for reformation, I was 19 in 1973 when it was legalized.

    I knew it was wrong, even before I got older then my older sister when I was 16, now it was not yet legalized but was being done, after a divorce went very wild and got herself pregnant. She was about 6 years older than me but lived with us. She did get an abortion but I think she did know it was not right.
    Years later she accepted Jesus in repentance, and years later I for sure got more into scriptures, even though I had read them for years, and committed to God.

    Anyway, my sister before she passed in 2004 told me that God had shown her that he had that little baby, a girl, her name was Elizabeth for she grieved and was sad for all those years about what she did. Although she only told me and her husband, Ray about this. I counseled her for years when she would beat herself up that God did indeed forgive this sin because she had confessed it all as sin and realized she was a sinner who needed the grace thru Jesus Christ and his sacrifice for all of us.

    I care not which party gets power, but if I am to vote, which believe it or not I still go back and forth with that, should I even bother or should I not. But if you do vote, who cares about the money etc and all of that of it, has to be any moral stand they take. I was part of the original conservative movement in the later 70s after abortion was legalized who worked to change one of the major parties so that perhaps we could get rid of it. I went to the churches where we saw the chip implants, etc etc. Where we discussed that after abortion, euthanasia would become the norm and be voted in.

    This is a long story and I am weary in even typing it, but please know this. I know the prayer that many have prayed from the old testament Chronicles I think it is:

    2 Chronicles 7:14
    King James Version (KJV)
    14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    Now let me tell you what I have found when I tried to find a church to belong to, I mean a building where people were the church. I could not stand it, as you got either how to be a successful christian, or where the teenagers were so bad you could not allow your kids to be with them, etc. Now I attend nowhere because one day I was at a Christmas tea, where we brought in our good dishes, china etc, and had tables and we got dressed up and we invited people to come see? I stood there a minute and thought back to my childhood and thought my own mama, could never have felt comfortable to come to such as this thing.

    We were poor as poor could be except thanks be to God who helped provide for us after my father died when she was pregnant with me and had 8 other kids to raise on the farm.

    Anyways, enough said here, then the name it claim it ones, I had to get through, began to think I must be a crazy religious fanatic cause I saw things so differently than I found

    I pray it has been different for some or all of you but for me, I am a spoke without the wheel I think at times, but I do know many true believers who I fellowship with as much as I can.
    Since I have been ill for many years, getting to the place is not so easy, and now we have a 93 year old man we have living with us who we are caregivers for and it is not so easy to get anywheres.
    Does God think I abandoned the house of God and Jesus? I am not sure, right now, I have to know that I sought fellowship in many places when I looked for where to go
    First thing I opened a phone book and saw all the split denominations even within themselves and the many, many and thought of the thing Paul said, Is Christ divided????

    This country is a big mess, and it is not all the fault of the one in charge for sure, but will enough Christians truly repent ?????? or the ones who call themselves Christians who I have told you cannot call yourself a Christian and tell me you can believe in the things you do, and mix Jesus in with Buddha, and Sufi and all the rest. But I am told I am the one who is wrong. Now I am a hater and one who should be more loving, etc etc

    I am ready to meet my maker and stand on what I accepted from the scriptures as the truth and with repentance in baptism accepting Jesus as the sacrifice for the sin I was born into in Adam, and the sins that are still there to get out of me and be constantly molded every single day . To be like HIM when I see HIM, I pray.

    Things are going to get much worse and does judgement begin in the house of God, like Peter says?

    16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

    17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

    18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

    19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.

    Our elderly man, at 93 years old finally asked for forgiveness in Jesus on confession of sin he was born into and all the sins of his life which were many and heavy
    on October 25, 2012
    I know some do not believe we have the ability to do that and it is somehow an election thing which to tell you the truth I don’t really get, cause I do not think God created robots
    but this is not to argue with anyone on that cause I don’t want to
    I am exhausted right now, as Edward is on his last days now, and it has been tough, we do not have money to hire caregivers to come in here, my husband and I do it and hospice has him on there and they do help some, thanks be to God.
    Thanks for listening and excuse my ramblings
    I do see where you are coming from Mr. Baldy and all the rest of you, but I will say right now I have not all the answers
    I do know there is going to be judgment and wrath, as believers part of our salvation is this
    we have been saved from the wrath of God to come
    have we been saved from the wrath of Satan for he knows his time is short

    I think not, no pretrib getting out of here

    13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

    14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

    15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

    16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

    There is more to come and whatever it is with the love and grace of Jesus Christ
    we will make it whatever it is.


  16. Vic and Rob
    please feel free to clean that up or even delete it if needed
    right now I am so tired and sad about the whole world except for my joy in my lord
    and I cannot even review it
    thanks to all


  17. have been out of town for a few days and glad to read all the comments. God’s Sovereign Hand will uphold us because Jesus’ Blood bought us. i love you all and pray His Grace and Peace to each of you in Jesus Christ the Lord.


  18. If you do a search in google “Americans microchipped 2013” a heap of sites came up, I read a few and it seems to maybe be right due to the new Health care system the USA has.
    in it there is a clause…

    In the massive US HEALTHCARE BILL, which your elected representatives voted for without reading, there is a section titled: Subtitle C-11 Sec. 2521 – National Medical Device Registry which states:

    “The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.”

    Here is a interesting link: Just 1 of many i read.



  19. Another thing is it says on page 1004 of the health care system which was implemted in 2010 dictating the timing of the chip: “No later than 36 months after the date on enactment” which makes it around march 23 2013.


  20. Mr. Baldy…
    It could also be that the Antichrist does not have to be of the caliber of Javier Solana. I say this because the system could already be set-up by figures like Solana, and a devastating War that brings everything crashing opens the doors for the type of dictator that would fit the bill of the Antichrist… Still acquiring the kingdom through flattery, because as Solana stated the World would voluntarily accept a leader with enough charisma to execute the plan that is already predestined and set to happen. In all reality I think the plan that is in motion is set to fit the person that will eventually take the reigns… (Antichrist). Meaning the world is not yet ready for this “Antichrist Figure”… There are a few more things to tweak and then we need a war to bring everything crashing down. For; “Out of Chaos comes Order”, and there is no other choice but to accept this leader to implement the plan.


  21. ma ma i want you NOW!!!!!,…………………………this is me tony saying MOM,…HELP, this is all really freaky………….MOM, MOM!,….. God loves us thru our Mom’s,…just sayin’!


  22. All joking and lightheartedness aside these 2 axioms reveal : 1. Truth is stranger than fiction. and 2. Nothing is as it seems.///////\\\\\\\ anyhow, we walk by faith, not by sight. Reality!, what a concept!!,…Strange games they are playing. George Orwell hit the nail ON THE HEAD!


  23. SPIRIT is the Ultimate reality. we battle not against flesh and blood,……and WE KNOW IT! its good to be in the know,…it changes everything,……..we enter into His rest as we press on, occupying till He comes


  24. Hi BerryBlueBerry,

    I’m in agreement with you as far as the System setting up the 4th and Final Kingdom for the coming Antichrist. This is the main reason why I have put forth the argument that there is no so-called “False Prophet”, as a person (man) – but it is the coming Antichrist who is the false prophet that has been described in Scripture. The False Prophet and coming Antichrist are one and the same (in my very humble opinion). It is the 1st Beast described in the Book of Revelation, being the Final World System that allows him to come to power.

    No one really knows what causes the Antichrist actually come to power – only that he does. We can make an educated guess, based on Scripture however, that it will be some sort of World wide economic crisis, such as we see occurring today, working in conjunction with wars that are beginning to rise up and occur in many of the Middle Eastern nations.

    In contrast to what you are saying about the World being ready for an Antichrist. Well, I believe that the World is more ripe now than it has ever been. Credit, credit cards, living beyond our means – no matter what economic scale a person lives on, is putting the blinders on what is really happening as far as the true economic situation in our World. If you want something, all you have to do is charge it. It won’t be long, and what we have seen happening in Greece & Spain will soon happen in America. It’s crazy, and what’s even crazier is that most people don’t realize it, and they think that just because they live in America it can’t happen.

    Now let’s take a topic like morality – well I don’t believe that I’ve ever seen a time in my life (I’m not that old), where I have seen such open homosexuality; sexual sins – like porn, adultery; acceptance to any religion; and so much GREED and self importance in all my life. It’s sickening – and the point of the matter is that it is all acceptable, as if it were normal.

    Sorry…don’t mean to get on a soap box – as we all know where it ALL is heading. I know that history has painted the issue with immorality before – but when has the technology been as great as it is in our time?

    The Good News is Jesus is Coming! I just hope that we can all understand Scripture enough that we don’t grow faint, and lose heart if we have to endure some things that we expected not to happen.


  25. well said mr baldy. anti-christ is going to figure in there somewhere (soon by the look of things) that is for sure. the world-by the multitude-without Jesus, is ripening for his “reign”…….but we are the witnesses of Jesus’ Coming Kingdom and want to be used for the sake of the Gospel because some (not many perhaps-God knows) will be coming in to the fold as the wheels come off of this whole thing. my prayer: Lord You promise to baptize us with the Holy Spirit and fire (matt 3:11). i’m asking in Faith for a Holy Boldness to give You Honor and Praise at all times and in behalf of my brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus that we would bring Glory to You-our One and Only King.


  26. I believe we are both in agreement, however I was not merely stating that the world and or society is not ready for the Antichrist now, but rather that there are a few tweaks that need to be made for the Antichrist to enter onto the World Scene… We are stinking ripe!!! I just like to have you explain things a little more…. 🙂


  27. strange games,..they are playing. in a sense-We have NO idea! they are smarter than you think…………….sheer evil genius,……..smokescreens everywhere. Our deep intrest should be on Christ Alone. Am i stating the obvious? Hope you think so


  28. to think that the Global Elite, are driven by the same irrational drives as the bullies in the schoolyard…………seems utterly insane, ……….and that it is./////\\\\\ Zionism is to true Israel and true Judaism / what Vatican catholicism is to true Christianity………twisted perversions that lead to CONFUSION or otherwise known as Babylon. Let the buyer BEWARE


  29. Not sure if you guys have heard but this week the Australian Federal Government launched a Royal Commission on the catholic church and other institutions regarding child sex crimes.

    its giving the church as a whole a real bad name then you read stories like this:

    “A former Catholic priest accused of molesting boys at a Victorian school told a colleague that “God made us this way and it’s his fault”, court documents allege.”


  30. Tweet – Bro Brian-

    BREAKING: Israel opens ‘gates of hell’ with military chief assassination – Hamas

    The assassination has “opened the gates of hell,” the Ezzedine al-Qassam Brigades, the armed wing of Hamas, were quoted by AFP as saying.

    Could not help but think of this verse of the event just prior to Satan’s FINAL casting out.

    Isa 14:9 — Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

    Rev 9:11 — And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

    Could this be the ” heaviness” and the groanings we all have been feeling as we see Israel being ” surrounded”. I think so.


  31. zionism is to true israel…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………confusion/babylon


  32. imagine deception like you’ve never imagined,……………………and truth unfolding the same,…like you never imagined


  33. “imagine deception like you’ve never imagined,……………………and truth unfolding the” same,…like you never imagined

    Oh so soon i think
    24 Now unto ……..him……… that is able to keep you from falling, and to …….present you faultless……….. BEFORE…….. the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
    25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

    There is a power and perfecting that WILL Occur……BEFORE….Christ gathers us to himself in the clouds.

    A Perfect Communion Coming BEFORE he gathers us in the clouds.

    A Spotless Bride, Holy,Chaste and WITHOUT wrinkle…..or ANY SUCH THING.

    When that wich is Perfect/Perfection comes…..that in part will be done away….

    Perfect Communion, A Perfect Walking in the Spirit….and NO walking after the flesh WHEN…..The testimony of Jesus IS The Spirit of Prophecy IN THE SAINTS.

    I believe a PURE WALKING IN the SPIRIT is Coming soon…..The Kingdom of God and the Power of His Christ is SOON!


  34. I feel the purging as we speak. And although it is painful, I’m thankful for it. When God said count the cost, He wasn’t kidding.

    God bless you all


  35. have wondered when we would hear from you shortribber and here you are. what great edification you brought to us today. Christ promised to prepare His Church for her finest hour being built up in our most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, and kept in the love of God as jude also testified. may the Lord Jesus Christ be praised in each and all of us here. thank you brother.


  36. “have wondered when we would hear from you shortribber and here you are”
    Sorry i’ve been away so long….i had been trying to share some really, Really rich stuff on the debate section at FP but it got so badly sidetracked i couldn’t but barely scratch the surface…then the thread got locked…oh well.
    I can’t share it here in the same way…posting is more complicated….I’ve thought about copy and paste to move some of it over here.
    Lots going on around the home front too that’s needing my time.

    I’ll see if i can copy the link for the thread..

    I think that worked…get what you can from it and ask a few questions if you wish…..That may be the best way…..just answer a few questions at a time…..but remember i was going to post a lot more scripture to “Chew On”.


  37. Shelby, i know what you are saying ever so well. Be blessed n God be with you and yours allways in ALL ways.///\\\ Short tribber you are a shooting star! God love ya. You rock my world buddy, in CHRIST


  38. Hi Shorty, I have been following, but like you say the sidetracking has overtaken events, a great shame. Please if and when you have time post more of your thoughts on the Abrahamic covenant


  39. Hi James,
    Thanx for the encouraging words, i will cont. to refer folks to the link for the stuff that’s over there so far and then i’ll add other parts here too. i remember your comments over there and thanx also for them.

    Bless ya


  40. I just had to move this over from info at Watchmens Cry..

    food for thought…..and i will add a few comments to this, primarily regarding the “Middle Gate”.

    Moving forward from the date of September 11, 2001 and using the calculation found in the verse above (Jeremiah 39:2,)
    1. September 11, 2001 + 11 years = September 11, 2012.
    2. September 11, 2012 + 4 months = January 11, 2013
    3. January 11, 2013 + 9 days = January 20, 2013
    We arrive at the date of January 20, 2013!
    Ladies and Gentlemen , January 20, 2013 happens to be the same day as the coming Presidential Inauguration!

    The odds of this Biblical Prophecy randomly landing on Inauguration Day defy mere chance.
    When we consider that the date is aligned with the event of Babylon taking over the land, I find the results stunning, chilling and very profound! Therefore, the conclusion of the scriptural formula found in Jer.39:2 gives strong confirmation that the application of this verse does indeed apply to America.
    The details of the coming Inauguration are as follows, according to the 22nd Amendment of the Constitution, Article 2, Section 1:
    “The terms of the President and the Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, …and the terms of their successors shall then begin.”

    But being that this date falls on a Sunday, a small private ceremony will take place on the 20th and then a public ceremony will take place the next day on the 21st. In Obama’s first Inauguration, he also had two ceremonies. One occurred in public and one was private. This will happen again.
    Ladies and Gentlemen, this means that according to the parallel found in the scriptures that I cited above, America is going to be officially taken over by the spirit of Babylon in the coming inauguration.
    The ramifications of this is going to be profound for America. According to the next verse, Jeremiah 39:3
    “Then all the princes of the king of Babylon came in and sat in the Middle Gate…”
    The Princes of Babylon went into the city and sat in the Middle Gate. If we look at this event in the spiritual realm, the middle gate can be viewed as the second heaven where the Principalities of Satan dwell.


  41. I have not heard this idea in such detail……..i agree completely with this

    it’s from a new thread at FP….please pay attention….

    As to the identity of this man? I feel that God would make it this plain to us. … Heaven.pdf
    Lightning falling from heaven.
    “And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.” Luke 10:18
    ειπεν δε αυτοις εθεωρουν τον σαταναν ως αστραπην εκ του ουρανου πεσοντα.
    Eipen de autois etheoroun ton satan hos astrapen ek tou ouranou pesonta.
    I thought while we are on the passage we could look into this verse as well. We have the imperfect
    active indicative of theoreo, which had the idea of viewing something as a spectator. In the imperfect
    tense it denoted a continuous action in the past that began and came to an end. We could say, I was
    watching the Satan as lightning fall from the heaven. To fall is the aorist active participle of pipto. And
    the word astrapen is the word for lightning.
    To fall from heaven is ek tou ouranou, which tells us that the origin, or the place from which he fell, is
    heaven, and that is in the singular. There are three heavens, one being the proper abode of God. The
    second would be the domain where all the unfallen angels dwell. So Satan’s fall from heaven is
    referring to falling, and that is down to earth, from his domain in the second heaven.
    Now what would be interesting is to look at this passage using the Hebrew, or Aramaic, not the Greek.
    The Lord used Greek all the time, but Aramaic was his native tongue, and it was a north west Semitic
    group of languages including Hebrew.
    Now the English word here is lightning; the Greek word is astrape, but, and this is interesting, the
    Hebrew word is baraq, ק=ר?ב! And the word baraq, with the Q at the end of it, is pronounced barak,
    barack having the same sound as a K! So baraq is pronounced exactly the same as barak, or barack!
    Now the English word here is heaven; the Greek word is ouranos, but, and this is interesting also, the
    Hebrew word is bamah, ה?מ?ב! And the word bamah, with the H, is pronounced exactly the same as
    bama without the H!
    So what does bamah mean in the Hebrew? Basically bamah denoted any high place, a mound, the
    heights, the air, heaven, etc.. When it referred to land, it denoted a mound, or high place, but generally
    always it referred to an occultic high place where the worship of Baal (Satan) was conducted . There
    would you would find altars, asherah poles, obelisks, etc.. The heights denoted the place where the
    worship of Satan, under one name or another, was conducted.
    When it spoke of the sky, heavens, clouds, etc., it spoke of the demonic realm of the air where Satan
    lives and rules. Bamah is the word for heights, or actually height in the singular, and bamah actually
    refers to the area of Satan’s domain in the heavens!
    Now the letter O has been used for centuries to denote “son of”, not just by the Irish, but also the Scots
    and even back originally to ancient Egypt! As ben was used in the Hebrew, also Mac and Mc, and the
    use of son on the end of English names, Johnson, son of John. All were used to denote the son of
    someone. But the use of O actually meant to come from, to descend from; it was used to show one’s
    origin. So what do we have here? If we were to translate, lightning fall from heaven, into the Hebrew,
    into a middle eastern tongue, we will end up with, Baraq O’ Bamah, which translates into the English,
    “lightning coming down from Satan’s domain in the heights of the second heaven”! Baraq
    O’Bamah is spelled almost exactly the same, but pronounced exactly the same as Barack O’Bama!

    This word, which ordinarily designates a “high place” (see High Places), is introduced in Ezek. xx. 29 as a generic name for an idolatrous place of worship for the purpose of playing upon the word, as though “Bamah” were compounded from “ba” (come) and “mah” (whereunto); the term being thus interpreted as a place to which people come—that is, for worship.


  42. this was my response to the above post at FP

    Wonderful post, and i agree completely.
    Those who think this is only a coincidence have ,it seems, only One Primary reason for believing so.

    1. Antichrist “revealed” Now, does not “Fit Into” there Eschatological System.

    Now this “Primary” reason has sub-reasons, and they, some of them, are….

    A. Antichrist must be a Jew.
    B. No Seven Year Treaty “Made” with Israel that “Reveals Him” as Antichrist.

    Anyone who still thinks this is a coincidence has “Ostrich Syndrome” it seems. I’m sorry if that is offensive but, golly folks, what’s it gonna take?


  43. thanks shortribber for all the above. profound find alright. the parallels are astounding. i was aware of the hebrew rendering of (o)bama out of isaiah 14 and we know that the spirit of anti-christ is what his presidency is all about. all of this is paving the way for anti-christ’s “reign” under the guise of peace and safety where so very many will put their trust, being deceived, and being ruined for trusting the god of this world. makes me so glad that Jesus has prepared hearts with the truth that will look to the unseen things and see what is hidden…let the reader understand…………things are on the fast track for sure now! God would not have us ignorant—yet sadly so many choose to be willfully ignorant. man shall not live by bread alone by by every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. matt 4:4 (that will not return unto Him void!) God’s Word taken so lightly is so profane and done in the spirit of anti-christ…..many there are that be deceived. the falling away in full swing means anti-christ will be making his debut soon. 2 thess 2:3-5 could not be more plain to show us along with what you posted what time it is!


  44. I’ll have to look into Jeremiah some more, I haven’t heard of this before although I do recall someone posting about Barak meaning lightning. Interesting to note with this “high places” heme that the Freedom Tower is due for completion next year. Anyone have an exact date?


  45. Shorty,

    I’m very surprised that you would even get caught up in this nonsense about the President being the coming Antichrist. His Dad’s name was Barack Obama as well, he died in a car accident, related to alcohol – so what does this say about a name?

    People have tired to identify the coming Antichrist for many years. Those who have tried this, have even mentioned Ronald Wilson Regan – who as you know was a Great American President, and connected him as being the coming Antichrist. Well guess what?….he’s dead. When will this nonsense end?

    I guess I really can’t blame those who attempt to discover the mysteries of Bible Prophecy, as I do it myself. But when extra biblical sources are used to make things fit in to their own paradigm it just appears to be a bit heretical to me.


  46. maybe i misunderstood but i did not think shortribber was outright calling obama the actual anti-christ. i think there are many “anti-christ types” and obama is absolutely one of those but i do not believe him to be–the one–a forerunner of sorts and solana certainly still seems the best candidate in my mind-yet we do not have an actual revelation that i can see. i think we will know of his revealing with surety….at that time….not before…but it is incredible nonetheless how that isaiah passage “pegs” somebody (operating with the spirit of anti-christ) in our day and time-at this point in earth’s history isn’t it?


  47. many have operated in the “spirit if antichrist”, If his father also named the same operated in the same spirit……………..Hitler did too.
    How may, i ask anyone, how many that have been thought of or considered have the Incredibly Long List of Antichrist characteristics as Obama? I can assure you, you will find none.
    Where does it say in scripture we will ALL KNOW together, ALL at once, ALL christians will know who he is? He is a deceiver and continues to deceive, and you are right Mr. B., i’m not hinting or saying he’s a runner up or forerunner…….i’m saying he IS the COMING MAN that Hitler mentioned.
    The fact that his father was named the same only adds more proof too the list, O, Heights of Babylon, O Heights of Babylon!
    I will be proven wrong when he doesn’t fulfill all that is prophesied of him…..but i won’t be proven wrong…’ll see.
    So there is no mistaking…..i’m not suggesting…..i’m saying right now……he is the Coming Man.


  48. “But when extra biblical sources are used to make things fit in to their own paradigm it just appears to be a bit heretical to me.”

    I’m using Biblical sources, Jesus’ own words, and Jesus used the Same Words in referencing Lucifer’s Fall from the Heights in Isaiah……..i’m not sure it can get more Biblical than that.
    Seems more “heretical” to not at least consider the possibility rather than to Resist the Possibility just to “fit their own paradigm”.


  49. Jeremiah 34
    8 This is the word that came unto Jeremiah from the LORD, after that the king Zedekiah had made a covenant with all the people which were at Jerusalem, to…………… proclaim liberty……………. unto them;
    9 That every man should let his manservant, and every man his maidservant, being an Hebrew or an Hebrewess,……. go free;…………….. that none should serve himself of them, to wit, of a Jew his brother.
    10 Now when all the princes, and ………..all the people, which had entered into the covenant, heard ………….that every one should let his manservant, and every one his maidservant,………… go free,……… that none should serve themselves of them any more, then……………………….. they obeyed,……………………. and let them go.
    11……………….. But afterward they turned,………………. and ……………..CAUSED…….. the servants and the handmaids, whom they had let go free,……….. to return, and brought them into subjection …………….for servants and for handma
    12 ………………………………………..Therefore ……………………………………..the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,
    13 Thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel; ……………..I made a covenant with your fathers……………….. in the day that I brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondmen, saying,
    14 At the end of seven years let ye go every man his brother an Hebrew, which hath been sold unto thee; and when he hath served thee six years, thou shalt let him go free from thee:…………….. but your fathers hearkened not…………….. unto me, neither inclined their ear.
    15 And ye were now turned, and had done right in my sight, in …………………proclaiming liberty………………… every man to his neighbour;……………….. and ye had made a covenant …………………..before me in the house which is called by my name:
    16 But ye turned and polluted my name, and caused every man his servant, and every man his handmaid, whom ye had set at liberty at their pleasure, to return, and brought them into subjection, to be unto you for servants and for handmaids.
    17 ………………………….Therefore…………………………….. thus saith the LORD; Ye have not hearkened unto me, in……………….. proclaiming liberty,………………… every one to his brother, and every man to his neighbour: behold, ………………………I proclaim a liberty for you,………………………… saith the LORD, to the sword, to the pestilence, and to the famine; and I will make you to be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.
    18 And I will give the men that have transgressed my covenant, which have not performed the words of the covenant which they had made before me,……………………………………………………………. when they cut the calf in twain,…………………………………………………………….. and passed between the parts thereof,
    19 The princes of Judah, and the princes of Jerusalem, the eunuchs, and the priests, and all the people of the land, which passed between the parts of the calf;
    20 ………………………I will even give them into the hand of their enemies,………………………….. and into the hand of them that seek their life: and their dead bodies shall be for meat unto the fowls of the heaven, and to the beasts of the earth.
    21…………… And ……………Zedekiah king of Judah and his princes will I give into the hand of their enemies, and into the hand of them that seek their life, and into the hand of the king of Babylon’s army, which are gone up from you.
    22 Behold, I will command, saith the LORD, and cause them to return to this city; and they shall fight against it, and take it, and burn it with fire:………………. and I will make the cities of Judah a desolation…………… without an inhabitant.


  50. Well Shorty,

    Again, I must say that I am a bit surprised that you would come flat out and make such a bold statement as you have. I’d like to point a few things out to you however:

    First, let’s take a look at 2 Thessalonians 2:1-10, which describes the Antichrist:

    Man of Lawlessness

    2 Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, 2) that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 3) Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4) who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. 5) Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things? 6) And you know what restrains him now, so that in his time he will be revealed. 7) For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. 8) Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; 9) that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, 10) and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved.”

    The aforementioned verses of Scripture – that I’m quite sure you are familiar with; state clearly that there is an appointed time in which the coming Antichrist will be revealed. He will not be revealed before his time – as he is being restrained, until the one who is restraining is taken out of the way. We are not to be fooled or deceived as by “spirit” or “message” or by “letter” – as it relates to the Return of Christ, and the connection with the coming Antichrist being revealed first. As you have mentioned, considering who the coming Antichrist “may be”; is better than resisting the possibility that he may fit any paradigm. You have not done this. You have flat out said that Barack Obama is the Antichrist. I believe that this is a bit premature.

    Second, you have referred Jesus’ own words to the fall of Satan – which is true, but you won’t find one iota of Scripture that Jesus Himself mentions as it relates to the coming Antichrist. Many have tried to fit John 5:43 as Jesus mentioning the coming Antichrist, but in reading the entire context of what is being mentioned by Jesus, He is referring to “any” man that would come in his own name, that the Jews would accept that man – in contrast to accepting Him as the coming Messiah.

    In closing, as much as I believe that Javier Solana fits the bill of the coming Antichrist, I have never said, nor will I say outright that he is – or any other person (man) at this point. I believe that when the coming Antichrist is revealed, he will have fulfilled prophecy to the letter. There will be no guessing. While I respect your opinion, there is certainly not enough evidence – at this point, to name anyone out right as the coming Antichrist.


  51. 16 But ye turned and polluted my name, and caused every man his servant, and every man his handmaid, whom ye had set at liberty at their pleasure, to return, and brought them into subjection, to be unto you for servants and for handmaids.
    17 ………………………….Therefore…………………………….. thus saith the LORD; Ye have not hearkened unto me, in……………….. proclaiming liberty,………………… every one to his brother, and every man to his neighbour: behold, ………………………I proclaim a liberty for you,………………………… saith the LORD, to the sword, to the pestilence, and to the famine; and I will make you to be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.

    NOW………..COMPARE THIS…………………………

    Luke 4
    18 The Spirit of the Lord [is] upon me, because he………. hath anointed……… me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
    19 To preach the ………..acceptable………. year of the Lord.
    20 And he closed the book, and he gave [it] again to the minister, and ……….sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
    21 And he began to say unto them, ……….This day………. is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.


  52. Is 61
    1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;

    2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD,
    ……………………..I’M ADDING IN THIS NOW FOR COMPARISON…. where Jesus stopped reading and “Sat Down”.
    Jer 34
    18 And I will give the men that have transgressed my covenant, which have not performed the words of the covenant which they had made before me, when they cut the calf in twain, and passed between the parts thereof,

    19 The princes of Judah, and the princes of Jerusalem, the eunuchs, and the priests, and all the people of the land, which passed between the parts of the calf;

    20 I will even give them into the hand of their enemies, and into the hand of them that seek their life: and their dead bodies shall be for meat unto the fowls of the heaven, and to the beasts of the earth.
    A…………i repeat…….A “DAY of Vengeance came in 70AD……..WHEN…. “The princes of Judah, and the princes of Jerusalem, the eunuchs, and the priests, and all the people of the land, passed between the parts of the calf; (Jesus, the WORD of TRUTH was the Confirmation of the Covenant and his Confirmation of it was CUT IN TWAIN)

    THE “DAY of Vengeance” had/has more than one aplication and occurance…….I said it before and i’ll say it once more, prophecy is not bound by or to ONE fulfillment and ONE space in time.
    Understand that the “DAY” is to be understood as “AN APPOINTED or DECREED” Space or Time.

    and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

    3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.

    More to come.


  53. “I believe that when the coming Antichrist is revealed, he will have fulfilled prophecy to the letter.”

    Sure when he is “revealed” at the casting out of Satan to the earth to take possesion of the lawless one he will be revealed………..but obviously not to ALL….or he would not be able to deceive the masses.

    and you quote
    “We are not to be fooled or deceived as by “spirit” or “message” or by “letter” – as it relates to the Return of Christ, and the connection with the coming Antichrist being revealed first.”

    No, it says only Not to be troubled or fear that the “day of Christ is At Hand”, and then simply goes on to say that certain events must occur first.
    by your reasoning we should not speculate as to whether we are or are not in the midst of a “falling away” also.
    We are not told that we can’t perceive and understand before the Masses wake up as to who the Lawless One is or will be.

    I’m not inerrant or a prophet of course…never claimed to be…I said…I WILL BE proven wrong when those things spoken of The Lawless One do Not find fulfillment in Obama,
    but i also said….wait and see…i will not be proven wrong.

    I should have said, I believe i will not be proven wrong…that is more accurate….i’m always willing to be found wrong……….I just am so absolutely convinced that i will not, and that’s all.


  54. When a pot of water is about to boil, we can see the little bubbles rising to the top just before the rolling boil begins.
    We know by the signs in the pot that the water is going to boil.
    I can see the O’bubbles in the pot, and it is just about to O’boil.


  55. Oh no!!! my spirit so does not bear witness that O is the coming AC. Not that it matter’s but God has promised to KEEP His own in these dark days of deception amen ? If he is the AC then time will tell right 🙂 Please pray for those of us that don’t see it.

    I’m discipling my body and mind as things have grown so dark in the spiritual realm that my trust is just a plain cool zero. I heed the warning of God’s word in these end times.

    Jeremiah – Chapter 9

    Oh that I had in the wilderness a lodging place of wayfaring men; that I might leave my people, and go from them! for they be all adulterers, an assembly of treacherous men.

    3 And they bend their tongues like their bow for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the Lord.

    4 Take ye heed every one of his neighbour, and trust ye not in any brother: for every brother will utterly supplant, and every neighbour will walk with slanders.

    5 And they will deceive every one his neighbour, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, and weary themselves to commit iniquity.

    6 Thine habitation is in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the Lord.

    Mr B you are correct in stating that he will ONLY be revealed at the ” appointed-time” . This is of course when Michael stops restraining and the battle in the heavenliness commence . Satan is cast out to earth to have his 42 month roaring rule. Woe unto the nations for he is spitting mad! 😦

    Feels as if we are close?

    Jhn 16:13 — Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

    1Jo 2:27 — But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

    No accusation here but I have seen quite a few of ” Natan’s” prophecies NOT come to pass.

    Let’s not turn this site into another “five doves” what say ye ?

    Love ya guys!


  56. Echoing Hisown’s sentiment. Thank you shortribber and others for having the courage to share ideas you s believe could be rooted in scripture even though you know most of us here will disagree.

    I think from our discussion it’s still plain that the man of sin whoever he may be has not yet been revealed. We have possibilities we are watching, but for now we wait and watch, knowing that from all we see in the world, especially in Israel that the time of our waiting grows short. How much harder it will get for the whole world as we wait like a pregnant woman who’s hour has come. I can remember many sleepless nights in my own life as I waited wondering if this was the night we would be rushing to the hospital to have our little baby. What a wonderful day that will be when we know for sure that our labor is near its end and the day of our bridegroom has come!


  57. “It’s gonna be okay man”

    it’s gonna be more than okay brother! I think you mistake my emotions, read this again and see if my heart is troubled!

    When the great tribulation begins, Christ will again take ACTION through His Body (the Church) to CONFIRM that He is the AUTHOR and the FINISHER of the FAITH. At that time (Daniel 12:1) We will learn the difference between FAITH in Christ and the FAITH…..OF…….Christ.
    The faith OF Christ is of this kind, I WILL NOT SIN and I WILL DO the WILL of HIM Who sent Me. A week or so back I was about to start typing this and I heard via another prophecy forum about some strange new doctrine (of devils) that we will all little by little gradually change our vile bodies into glorious incorruptible bodies, stop sinning and live happily ever after in our brand new godbodies. Well it caused me to pause and delay writing “the confirmation” because I became concerned people would somehow connect what I’m sharing here to that New Age (old age) vomit.
    The I WILL not sin ACTION that will be made possible by Christ that I fully expect to occur before He appears will be HIS DOING, not ours and it is marvelous in our eyes. Some of what I expect to transpire during the CP “confirmation period” does not effect the timing or in anyway affect the validity of STPW “shorttrib/prewrath”, or should it be just STP…..I don’t know.
    PROOF of the POWER of God, that is what will occur during the CP…………PROOF of God’s PROMISES. The ACTION of God and the overwhelming POWER and PRESENTS of God in our members. He will CONFIRM us unto the END. The separation from the true and the false, the wheat and the tares, the sheep and the goats, the wise from the unwise will CONFIRM us and PROVE us.
    The separation will PROVE the Word of God and power of His Christ to the ungodly and those who sleep in the night………………..go ye out to meet Him soon and do not slumber. Ready your lamps and fill up your vessels with oil……..A light on a hill can not be hid….stand on Mt. Zion with your lamps full. The Hill of the Lord is as the hill of Bashan, an High Hill as the hill of Bashan.
    The kingdom of God was literally present in Israel at the moment of Christ’s baptism when His ministry began, immediately after his baptism he was driven by the Spirit into the wilderness and went into a synagogue on the Sabbath day and read from the book of Isaiah and “sat down”. Christ began at that moment to fulfill this passage(Mal 3:3) The FIRST Parousia is what Israel and the earth was experiencing during Christs personal ministry during the FIRST 3.5 years of Daniels 70th week.
    The SECOND Parousia is what Israel and all the world will be experiencing during the LAST 3.5 years of Daniel’s 70th week. The FIRST half of the “Confirmation of The Covenant with MANY” was a WORK of FAITH by Christ to fulfill (in part) the PROMISE (Covenant) of God to Abraham. The Mosaic Covenant followed AFTER the Abrahamic Covenant and is thereby SUBSERVIENT to it. The Mosaic Covenant SERVED to show us what sin is and what blessing is. The Mosaic Covenant is what could be considered a portion of the Abrahamic Covenant because it taught us death to ourselves and OUR WORKS to life in Christ and HIS WORK.
    When the AOD occurs the second Parosia of Christ BEGINS………and culminates at His Physical coming in the clouds at the Seventh trump after 3.5 years plus maybe a few unknown number of days of the last 75 days spoken of at the end of Daniel 12. Christ will again “sit” and Judge during that LAST 3.5 years of His CONFIRMATION of the COVENANT. He will again “sit” as a refiner, as a separator of the sheep and the goats when He comes (parousia) in his KINGDOM. He will separate the false swearers from truth tellers and the wheat from the chaff, He will sweep the floor of His House. He will try the hearts of men when He is present (parousia) at His Kingdom. He will measure HIS TEMPLE with the measuring staff and plumline of TRUTH, HE will measure with His two witnesses Joshua and Zerubabel……..those WHO HAVE and SHARE the SAVLATION TESTIMONY(Joshua) of Jesus and who were BORN in BABEL(Zerubabel).
    When the AOD occurs and antichrist the Loser is cast to earth, Daniel 12: 10 and 11, the Kingdom of God and the power of His Christ will fill His two witnesses Johsua and Zerubabel (144,000 and the Church) and the Last Half of the CONFIRMATION with MANY will commence. The “Spirit of prophecy” and the “knowing of the Spirit of Truth” will bring the Body of Christ, the Bride, into perfection and readiness to receive the Son and we WILL BE a “chaste virgin”, a “bride without spot or wrinkle or any such thing”.
    Christ will CONFIRM HIS WORD and HIS PROMISE and the world will know who are His and who are not. We will RECEIVE from Christ the FAITH…………OF………CHRIST. WE will do as He did and love not our lives to the death. Just as Christ WOULD NOT sin………..we WILL NOT because GOD will WORK in us and He WILL…..CONFIRM us until the end.

    1Cor 1:
    6 Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you:
    7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
    8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, [that ye may be] blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.


  58. “No accusation here but I have seen quite a few of ” Nathan’s” prophecies NOT come to pass”

    i disliked that site for that and all the other “Dreamers and Prophets” craziness too 🙂
    I get an email on and off about Nathans radio stuff….i never read’m but this one i clicked on i thought very interesting……that’s the reason.

    this is very interesting and i’m always willing to test things like this out….especially when the dates spoken of are literally within such a very short time to be tested as true or not…we will soon see 🙂


  59. Hey Shorty I love ya bro! If I could pick a dad it would be you …seriously…and that’s not saying you are old…lol.

    Thank-you for praying for those of us that don’t see it but this I know, I am witnessing the power of prayer like never before. The Lord is moving in mighty ways as we all get our houses in order.

    If we are don’t see He has promised :

    Phl 3:15 — Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

    The outpouring the Holy Spirit in Joel is a promise that God is in the MIDST of the HOUSE of Israel. We being the r e m n a n t of her seed.

    Rev 12:17 — And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

    Soon? I think so 🙂

    Joe 2:27 — And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.

    Joe 2:28 — And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:


  60. To bring this back to the Europen angle:

    Pressure on Cameron to block EU army HQ plans
    David Cameron faces a looming political battle to defend Britain’s veto over defence policy after France, Germany, Spain, Italy and Poland urged the creation of a new European Union military command “structure”.

    This future of Europe group includes the Weimar triangle, my second (quickly becoming first) choice for the 3 horns.

    This is going to happen.


  61. Hi James,

    Thanks for the article, and the link. Sometime ago I mentioned to you that the UK would succumb to the powers of the EU, to include it’s monetary system. Do you now think that this may be a possibility?

    I sent you an email in response to your questions Mathieu.


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