A few weeks ago I asked the question: “Has satan been cast down”. The response was bigger than I expected and many of you shared from your heart, expecting great things to happen as time is running out.
Yesterday a dear friend send me a link of an interview on Trunews with Ray Gano of Prophezine. As I do not endorse these ministries myself, I was skeptical to listen to it. Honestly, I’ve only listened to it as I trust the person who has send it to me.
Well, I must say that some parts of this interview spoke to my heart. I know Ray Gano is not into sensational reports so with him confirming things that I feel in my heart, made me sit up and listen. The main message for me was the following: “The role of the watchman has come to an end. The watchman must get of the wall”.
Now before you think that Vic is loosing it and wants to run away, please listen to this clip and tell me what you think. Something is brewing and the Lord is warning His people. As always, listen prayerfully and spit out the bones.
UNSEALED PROPHECY 
I believe this….the Lord is speaking to my “spirit” to shout the warning before hearing this…I will continue to do so and pray diligently for unsaved souls.
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On another note…without going into the entire story, the Lord gave me a dream on March 5, 2012…he woke me first and gave me these words specifically “quit looking for the covenant, it has happened”. I went back to sleep and then he woke me again, and said the next thing to look for is the abomination of desolation. I cannot tell you how I have faithfully been studying his word, but I can tell you these words are absolutely from the Lord. I have been preparing, shouting, and praying.
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Wow! Thanks for sharing Deb. I am speechless.
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Sadly I must concur that what I hear God saying to me is very similar. Finish up preparations…batten down the hatches. He knows his sheep, and will remember them in the worst of times. Nkosazana.
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Yes Deb the AOD is next and it’s not what we have been taught either.
Nkosazana yes that’s it…finish it up 😦
Thanks to Bro Brian for link http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/241179#.T8YzMr9YudM
Vic I agree . I also don’t endorse these ministries but need to agree that something has changed on the ” wall”. It’s like we have been ” released ” from the burden and the blood of those whom were sent nto our lives to warn.
I tried to express that in the other post here –
“Are we already in the strong delusion? It’s like I can imagine the Lord SEALING the door of the Ark and those on the outside laugh, mock and separate themselves , giving into the pleasures …until the rain came.
Can you imagine the horror as they tried to climb on board with hands begging to be pulled in? God is not mocked and as it was in the day’s of Noah that door will be shut and the unwise will lament in agony and remorse what a sad day that will be.”
I humbly believe that those that are not hearing are under some hypnotic spel ( love for the world and all that it has to offer) and that the Lord is placing a WHOLE NEW calling on the watchmen.
Daily the Lord is pouring people into my life that want to know what is going on. It has been ALL HIS WORK and that blows me way.
The saddest thing for me to witness is those that had the opportunity to repent, held religiously on their ” get out of hell free card” in prideful arrogance 😦
Dan 11:33 — And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
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Hisown your siting the passage about the ark of noah’s time and the door being shut is exactly what came to mind before i read your post. i am noting the same feelings but it is based out of the Word which is marching steadily and now seems to me more quickly toward fulfillment. i believe that things are about to shift radically all over the world. the aod is what i continue to know to watch for. i’m waiting, watching, (sometimes witnessing though i feel unheard) praying for what i don’t quite know as i have no words so i am clinging to Jesus’ Intercessory Prayers in our behalf. God will finish the matter–His Ways are higher than mine……………………………………….
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Andre sis you bless me…so very much!
The most disconcerting thing for me to witness s how God is sending them this delusion…and was reflecting on the verse just after this shocking truth this morning.
Taking pleasure in unrighteousness= habitual defiance 😦
2Th 2:12 — That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Having NO FEAR as they sit at your table 😦
Jud 1:12 — These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Seducing with ( throwing a little ” Jesus “) into the speech for advantage 😦
Jud 1:16 — These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men’s persons in admiration because of advantage.
I can’t even begin to imagine what we are about to face in the coming great trib if this is how evil it is already…wow!!
In much fear and trembling.
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Wow, with all these people having dreams and visions I feel left out…:(
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Me too Agie. Never had one of those.
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Maybe he’s saving the really good ones for you and Agie at the very last moment before he takes us all home.
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Brother, as long as we get home with out Lord I don’t care if I ever have a vision or dream. But for now I am intrigued at how so many people all over the world say the same thing.
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Satan is not cast down yet……………..Just wait. First the rapture. Think about the worst horror movie you ever seen, than multiply that times ? ……………..20? You people are giving him to much credit for being a mild guy. When he is cast down he knows it is his last chance. So, than what ?
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Dave, after the rapture, the wrath of God will be poured out. That has got nothing to do with satan being cast down. Don’t get to cosy thinking that you will be taken away without any persecution or tribulation. That is not biblical.
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Dave please prayerfully ponder this :
Rev 13:7 — And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
The operative word is – ” given unto him” – you may want to ask – ” by whom” 🙂
Dan 7:21 — I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
We will be here through trib under the ” wrath of Satan” and yes he knows his time is short, very short forty two months short 🙂
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I am listening to the guy above now. I am very suspicious about what he is saying. the host talking about words that are being given to him about months and dates upcoming, and I just don’t know with his past connection with TBN and others, I have a very very hard time taking anything he says as reliable. I think we should be careful when we here from false teachers who may sometimes agree with what we are seeing in plain site. I think many of us who know the Lord clearly know something is very not right, I get that sense from nearly every believer I talk to even if they are not aware of the geopolitical events that suggest prophecy is being fulfilled. We need to be extremely cautious as these things happen- today I hear in the news about the President of the United States leaving for a an unknown location, for an unknown purpose, and a shooting rampage in Seattel. Even though I don’t have a “word from the Lord” I can open my eyes and see in plain sight that some very troubling things are on the very near horizon (a shooting war in the Middle East, Total economic collapse in Europe, a domino of economic collapse that will bring down the US and others, the possibility that a civil war is being manufactured by the current US administration and the left ie the “occupy movement’. ) It doesn’t take a rocket scientist or a prophet to see that the odds are good that some very severe consequences are headed our way. The host of this tru-news show and Ray Gano strike me as very word-faithy/if we pray enough God will change his mind kind of guys. That really bothers me – to quote something I saw in a tweet today about the NAR –
John MacArthur on the New Apostolic Reformation: “You’d think somebody opened the back door of the nut house.”
We need to be very careful about the nuts.
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Mr Sheep do these guys promote the NAR? are they calling for a revival? if so I agree 100% that they are in error. I need to go listen again.
Are they saying they are ” getting off the wall” because judgment is nigh?
Also as much as I don’t want to get into ” bashing”…we need to remember that John McA is a pre tribber as well 🙂
On a side note, if there was a complete ” cessation” of the gifts then we have a major problem with the ” discerning ” of the spirits.
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You are right – that I can see they are not promoting the NAR. The thing that bugged me though was with his prediction about “July or November” he was saying things about us all getting together to pray and hope that God would spare the nation (which sounds very NAR’y to me). I know Nineveh was spared – so I would love for the US to experience a revival like that that would spare this sad debauched nation, but I really don’t see it coming and I definitely don’t see it coming from some group that claim to be prophets (but are clearly not). It also bugged me that this guy kept going on about his “word from the Lord” – but that he wasn’t a prophet. That to me is kind of dishonest, because if a person claims a special revelation from God, that is the definition of prophecy. I don’t object when someone says – the Holy Spirit brought me to these scriptures specifically to strengthen me, and for me to encourage others – that is good and I would say a true form of prophesying. What I object to is when someone says, “God gave me this word, that is not found in the scriptures, and you should all listen to me because I have a word from God” – Deuteronomy 18:20 condemns that person. I’m not saying that a person cannot have a word from God – but I am saying that this word will come to us with confirmation that it is from God, either by a 100% track record of past fulfillment or some other clear and supernatural confirmation that this person is speaking something from God. I’m not a cessationist, I’m a “the manifestation of many of these gifts is not .001% as common as some who falsely claim these gifts would have us believe, even back in the 1st Century”
Regarding pre-tribbers, yes the hardcore – pre-trib = doctrine people, that is a huge mistake and I’m nearly convinced that it could rise to the level of heresy. Among many bible teachers, I hear a lot of “my preference is pre-trib, but” kind of language, and while I my approach to the timing of the rapture is different, and I believe that Lord plans to use the tribulation (the wrath of the AC part) to purify his bride and to test her in the crucible, I don’t think they are heretics to disagree with my conviction. I also don’t think that is anything like the heresy and false prophecy coming out of the word-faith/TBN crowd. I hope you guys don’t all stone me when I post a couple things later this week that I’ve been reading and a testimony about a man who the Lord used to sow a seed in my heart (and while he believes we are in the end times also tend to favor the pre-trib position).
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no stoning justasheep. we are all pretty much of the same heart and mind that leaves room for God to do things that-of course are in keeping with Scripture-but not fully understood by us. hindsight will-and has-shown us that many hunches are right or close or even if off base-but bottomline we still follow-in Faith and Love (His) is our code of conduct throughout whatever twists and turns this wild ride takes us. i personally think-just my own thought and not held to extreme-we will be taken up somewhere middlin’ of the tribulation time-missing the part where the wrath really comes down but persecution will be very trying nonetheless. i do hope there are yet pockets of revival before we are taken. i read today in romans 11 where the Lord said-I have yet…men…who have not bowed the knee to baal-a remnant-and it blessed me to read that but the Lord knows what He wants to accomplish in these days as we head straight for tribulation-i leave that with Him. i believe we will be gone for the “great”est part of it. but–that said-i’m here to learn and observe alongside some wonderful bros and sisses. i certainly do not “know” but by faith i perceive enough to want and keep-by His Spirit’s leading-the right focus. i know the Lord’s Faithfulness thus far has brought us all through “many dangers toils and snares” as the old song goes and those Promises of His Grace He will keep. our eyes are on You Lord………………………….
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Mr Sheep please do share 🙂
If I may ?
Vic said ” I know Ray Gano is not into sensational reports so with him confirming things that I feel in my heart, made me sit up and listen.”
I believe Vic is trying to express that it is s what RAY GANO is SAYING that is confirming what he is feeling.
I need to confess that yes the Holy Spirit is affirming this to many I’ve met personally over the past few weeks as well in what the Lord has been showing me in my quite time as well.
We all feel the urgency. Shall we deny that? People have become ” numb” I can attest to that 100% and the mocking has become almost unbearable 😦
Yes I have a concern for the ” timing” he is eluding too and we need to be aware of being sucked into a ” time- frame” yes I agree with you on that concern 😦
Ray made it perfectly clear that he is “NOT INTO THE DREAMS AND VISIONS THING” yet shares his own “movie” play out —- point 31; 50 about the “BLACK CLOUDS “that are descending 😦
There has defiantly been a change over the past few weeks in my own little ministry and shared that in a private e-mail some time ago and am not surprised that other’s have come to the same conviction.
Praying for wisdom and discernment.
One last point 🙂
I’ve tried to find the NAR agenda or the revival ” call” (from Ray’s words ) and found none in the clip posted.
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Brother Rob, with greatest respect to you, I have to say that when most people say they have a word from the Lord it is something the Lord has laid on their heart. I have many times been reading the word of God and the Holy Ghost has spoken to my heart about this scripture and how it applies to my life or someone close to me – this is a word from the Lord. What else would you call it? Sister Hisown’s five smooth stones is an excellent example of a word from the Lord. I pray that God will begin to speak to your heart about what a word from him really is. Getting a word from the Lord does not make you a prophet at all. Just like standing in a garage does not make you a car. I say this in love and pray that you will receive it that way.
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Thank you Brenda- I can heartily say Amen! to your words above. Our church was recently preaching/studying through 1 Corinthians – and in chapter 14 it is all about this. Our culture has done so much to twist the meaning of words that we don’t understand what it means to prophesy any more – but thank the Lord that we still have brothers and sisters like yourself who the Spirit has lead to speak God’s word into our own hearts of the hearts of others. With that, I would never take an issue. I didn’t understand at first Hisowns five smooth stones- but after writing back and forth with her a little and re-reading some of her past posts I think it’s a beautiful illustration about how the Spirit puts his truth on our hearts and uses his word to confirm the groanings we can’t even express.
I think whenever we are lead by the spirit to share a word from the Lord with others we are prophesying, we may not be naming a date and a time for some future event but we are encouraging others with the truth of some promise from God or some element of his nature that is unchangeable and applicable to our lives (which I believe the Spirit draws us to).
I wanted to share one last thing – I think there are many times when we “prophesy” even those of us that are not called to be like a Nahum, Hosea, Joel or Anna, the daughter of Phanuel. Much to my frustration, I really struggle with memorizing scripture these days. In a couple instance I can think of it was as if God turned on a spigot inside my spirit and every other word that came from my lips was scripture that related to where that person’s heart was. The first time was on a ride to the airport two years ago, with a muslim limo driver. We were talking about our families, and how many children we had. When I spoke about having 6 children he asked, what moved you to that? I told him that we felt that children are a blessing from God, and we didn’t want to stand in the way of God’s blessing. He thought that large families were not so great (the first person I’ve ever heard that sentiment from in many years). Though his situation was unique, he was a child of his father’s first wife and his father later took a second wife to father a total of 13 children. He shared that he deeply resented his father for favoring his second wife’s children so didn’t think such a big family was a good thing. The first thing that popped into my head was Ephesians 5:25 – Husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her. I told him I don’t know how I can even love one wife the way Jesus love his church enough to sacrifice himself on a cross. I figured the guy (he was a very large egyptian man) was going to pull off at the next exit and cut my throat – but instead we had the most interesting and lively conversation for the next hour – and when we reached the airport he handed me my bag and said he wished we had a much longer way to drive together.
Another time was not so long to relay – but a few days ago a kindly older Jehovah’s witness lady knocked on my door and during the 5 minutes of our conversation I pointed out how sad it was that her church had not told her that her salvation could be assured, and that it was not through her own good works. Again it was a stream of scripture that poured out of me from places I didn’t know I had – but it reinforced in my heart that the Lord is still pouring out his spirit on us and causing us to prophesy, and the spirit DOES give us the words to speak at the moment he wishes them to be spoken. Even though she practicly ran back to her car after only a few minutes – I’m hoping that if its possible a seed could be sown that would cause that woman to question the satanic oppression of the watchtower society.
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Hisown – re the Gano video, I’m sorry I don’t think I spoke very clearly since I was in a hurry to type and irritated by the host. I didn’t really have any issue with anything that Ray said in his message, I agree with Vic on that part its more confirmation that many are seeing the same things that we are, and are in that place where everything seems balanced on a razors edge.
The issues I really had were with the Host Rick Wiles and when he was speaking. He didn’t mention the NAR – but his “the Lord gave me these dates” and the impression I got was that if there was sufficient revival the Lord would spare America that gave me the NAR kinda vibe. I really really don’t like that vibe – I know the voice of my shepherd, and they sure don’t speak with the voice of my shepherd.
So in short – I didn’t hear Mr. Gano say anything that I found off-base or odd, (I don’t think I got to listen to 100% of it, I kept getting interrupted) but his discernment on whose radio show to do makes me want to pray that God will give him more wisdom in the future.
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Thank-you Mr Sheep 🙂
God uses donkey’s 🙂 – just could not resist!
So get this,,,,here is this ( Balaam ) dude plonking along the dusty road and his donkey starts a conversation with him ( like seriously )
Now what get’s me is this ….he doesn’t HESITATE for a second but jumps right into a conversation with the poor animal, never stopping and saying” eerr that’s weird ” …LOL….
Okay I promise to behave 🙂
Maybe God sends these into our lives to get our attention?
You know I cry out at times begging he Lord to REMOVE the obstacles in my life that are causing the PAIN, yet it are these EXACT same things He USES to bring about the CHANGE IN ME 🙂
I praise God for the DONKEY”S in my life. I really do 🙂
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Oh, these time zones is so frustrating sometimes! Looks like I missed out on the discussion while sleeping.
Just to clarify, I do agree with Rob that the host of Trunews can get too much with his views and comments. You can actually hear Ray Gano sidestepping some of his comments. Please listen to what Ray says, not what the host says. I should have clarified it earlier. Ray is not into NAR and does not endorse any “thus sayeth the Lord” movement. The only thing that I do not agree on with Ray is his endorsement of Joel Richardson and his Islam AC theory.
Cole, so true. The Lord can use a donkey. That is what the Lord is teaching me often. Listen to the words, not to the person. The Lord can even use a false teacher. Look at Caiaphas. He prophesied when he said that one will die for all speaking about Jesus, but he did not know it. Donkeys and false teachers can be used, but only if the word spoken by them is made alive by the Spirit in you and does not contradict the written Word.
And no friends, this is not a free pass from me to listen to false teachers. 🙂 Stay away from them.
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I have to agree with John McTernan:
http://www.defendproclaimthefaith.org/blog/?p=1703
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Thanks boetie.
I like how John Mc T says it ” It is very possible”.
There is no a ” thus saith the Lord” but there is just this , how can I put it , a ” knowing”.
I praise God for all of you that have walked this path over these past few years, wow God has been so faithful and so have you all been. Just wanted to let you all know how much I appreciate your labor of love 🙂
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Well I can’t say as I have knowledge visionary, dream or otherwise as to when Satan may have plopped down here. But it seems to me the recent rapid escalation in cannibalism, body dismemberment, beheadings, and the just gross, gross in your face evil, says there is something different in the realm that bodes of great dark evil.
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Nkosazana I’ve been meaning to ask you for the longest time. Are you South-African?
We ain’t seen nothing yet!
“Plopped down” ? that’s funny but not in a sorta ” haha” way. YIKES!
I’m so in agreement with you that there is something just ” different” about all this and pray that the Lord will continue to lead and guide us in the dark days ahead.
A little funny for you today. Late last night my precious son took me for a long walk to the beach to chat, pray and discuss the changes we are seeing. It was nearing midnight and for the first time in all my years since leaving South-Africa I felt a little ” afraid” . Where we live the crime rate is so low and the worst we see around here are rowdy teenagers. We were discussing these ” weird zombie like ” attacks and my son (who is a science skeptic ) made a quirky comment and went on to give me a detailed explanation. Holding onto his arm I insisted he keep up to my pace as he was holding me back, just then a man came hobbling out the shadows ( I kid you not, he must have had either a fake leg or was recovering from a prior injury ) and all I could think of was ” zombie alert ,who let the crazzies out”. My son unhooked his arm and picked up the pace. I burst out laughing and said ” excuse me who is exactly is supposed to be the man here” !
My tummy hurts ! that was highly hilarious as it goes to show how much of today’s media has a impact on the way we perceive things. Poor guy, wonder what he must have thought 🙂
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Was a missionary in Swaziland,..studied Zulu in S. Africa. I hear you with the awareness of potential evil…even in quiet neighborhoods,…bad stuff afoot. And ugh…how much worse yet is it likely to become. I hate to think.
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In my unsaved days I traveld weekly though to Mhlume in Swaziland and loved the people, the culture and not to forget the awesome of God’s creation 🙂
Sorry didn’t mean to distract from the thread I just wanted share that with you 🙂
Do you see this ” evil” globally right now or …?
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I see evil EVERYWHERE and fast getting the upper hand. Nkosazana
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That is a pretty bold statement and am in full agreement. 😦
Nkosazana the worst of all deception is the ” self -deception” how does one even begin to share that concern!
Rhetorical and oh so scary 😦
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Considering that there is another covenant coming up in 2014…I’m reminded of this dream and confirmation from the Lord given to Deb for her “to quit looking for the covenant it has happened” and the next thing to look for is the AOD”.
Deb on May 30, 2012 at 3:09 pm
“On another note…without going into the entire story, the Lord gave me a dream on March 5, 2012…he woke me first and gave me these words specifically “quit looking for the covenant, it has happened”. I went back to sleep and then he woke me again, and said the next thing to look for is the abomination of desolation. I cannot tell you how I have faithfully been studying his word, but I can tell you these words are absolutely from the Lord.”
Maranatha!
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im glad you brought that to light shelby
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A friend is staying with us because he’s homeless. He is broken hearted and depressed. Last week, He told my husband he saw a vision of Jesus in a window while him and my husband were at work. He said Jesus told him he is on earth for a purpose to help people. He said it gave him chills and that he’s never experienced anything like that before.
Acts 2:17 In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions and your old men will dream dreams.
Psalm 34:18 18 The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit.
Psalm 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise.
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He didn’t actually see the vision speaking but he heard God speaking to him in his spirit.
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thats overwhelming, and beautiful and endearing
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Sorry guys I did not want to derail this ( or discuss it on e-mail ) but would really appreciate your thoughts on Brother Scott’s latest comment @ Born To Watch.
“Talk of this nature sounds very much like it did when Hitler rose to power. I consider this “talk” to be more evidence that the “beast kingdom”spirit is coming, or has already fully come up out of the bottomless pit. – Scott ”
Brother if you are still around here at Vic’s place , please know that I agree 100%.
The ” evil ” that has overtaken as of late is almost unbearable. So cunning, so crafty, so deceptive, so wicked ( this spirit even uses God’s word to lie in WAIT for it’s prey )
Could this ” beast spirit ” be alive and well ? I fear so 😦
Rom 9:22 — What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
It’s actually a blessing right ?
Rom 9:23 — And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
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where is that little thumbs up thing when ya need it? could not agree more Hisown. in fact i private emailed scott to tell him just that. i do believe we are not far at all from anti-christ’s rise to power. the stage is being set for a “great” “abomination” (of desolation) to take place with the rhetoric becoming very loud (and worldwide) about jerusalem being the palestinian capital. the jewish settlements are angering more and more people who view them as occupiers (of their own land no less). how long before the big move (politically and then militarily) to get it totally into their hands? i do not know—but i do know it is not looking good these days-(about the sorrows Jesus spoke of)-not looking good at all……….but a blessing yes!–our redemption draws nigh….my eyes are on You Lord. (gotta keep telling people about Jesus….)
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I love you dearly in Christ sis Andre and am so blessed by knowing that there are other’s that know and understand that we are in a current spiritual storm of biblical proportions and the clouds out there are dark and evil right now.
How long has it been that the Lord has been preparing us for this ” appointed -time” – it hasn’t been in vain but a preparation for the days we in.
We need to be in His Word, watching and staying alert to the subtle tactic’s of the enemy as he distracts and diverts our attention AWAY from what is going on in the shadows right sis 🙂
Praise God for His word!
Psa 27:13 — I had fainted, unless I had believed to see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the living.
Isaiah 66:4
“The Lord is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me? The Lord taketh my part with them that help me: therefore shall I see my desire upon them that hate me. It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man. It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in princes.”
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keep the [ childlike ] faith, kids!
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