The Origins of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture

Are you Wheat or Chaff?

Thanks to Cole for sending me this two clips.

Dankie Sus.

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9 thoughts on “The Origins of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture

  1. Boetie the “wheat and chaff ” clip is a ideal tool for witnessing to the church.

    About the second clip ( I’ve not had time to dissect it as yet ) but am trying to understand if this lady is coming from the ” Preterism ” view point. Could it be a partial ” Preterism ” view?

    So they don’t hold onto a future 42 mont trib but see that as being fulfilled in 70 AD right?

    Oh my now the sparks are gonna fly 🙂

    FWIW. I don’t hold to this view, just in case there are any misunderstandings 🙂

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  2. Check this article out..
    How the US dollar will be replaced.

    http://www.alt-market.com/articles/784-how-the-us-dollar-will-be-replaced

    Then check this one out..
    US postal service website
    Conversion Table: U.S. Dollars to Special Drawing Right (SDR)

    1 U.S. $ = 0.6339 SDR 1 SDR = $1.58 ($1.5776 U.S.)

    There is a full table on their site converting US dollars to SDR’s which will replace the US dollar as the world reserve currency and looks like they are preparing now.

    http://pe.usps.com/text/imm/immc3_007.htm

    That is going to cause massive inflation in the US when it happens and probably world wide i would expect. And probably sometime after the presidential elections.

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  3. I also picked it up, the partial preterism view, but was more interested in the title of the clip. So yes, do not focus on what her view may be, but rather on the origin of the pre-trib.

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  4. I enjoyed the wheat or chaff video as it is generally neutral and applicable; but the pre-trib and Jesuit bashing…shish give your traditional Church me a break. If your “Doctor” James can’t interpret worth a darn then how do you expect to interpret any writings from a well disciplined group like the Jesuit way of connection to the Holy Spirit? Study them neutrally and you will see. Your victims not interpreters, the foundation is missing, do not remain in denial for I know that there are true sheep among you. Do not attend to wolves on the pulpit who see themselves as floating on a cloud void of any footing, many a golden tongue will be unleashed to deceive the innocent and justify persecution, as flood waters are being poured out from the dragons mouth in order to deceive many.

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  5. Juan,
    At this website we acknowledge the inerrant, god-breathed scriptures as they have been recorded by the prophets and the apostles. We do not require a group of self-appointed religious men, which had been found to be promoting heresy and teaching which directly contradicts scripture to tell us what the Bible means. If you refuse to accept the scriptures, I would encourage you to start you own blog where you can discuss your views with others that see prophecy as you do. Dr. James has gotten it right – and I don’t think it’s fair to attack someone only on the basis of their name or professional title (I know it happened here last week with someone using another title, and I didn’t agree with the attack then either). I’d encourage you to refer back to the scriptures that Dr. James mentions with an open mind. See for yourself if they don’t clearly, and simply point to a future event where our Lord will snatch us away to forever be with him.

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  6. Interestingly enough, I heard a pastor I really respect, Dr Irwin Lutzer, speak about this again on Moody Radio this morning. He acknowledged the emergence of the pre-trib notion with Darby (even though he himself identifies as pre-trib). He also pointed out that in reality there is very little difference between the pre-trib and pre-wrath camps, and that none of it rose to the level of doctrinal differences worth fighting about. He was on this morning speaking about a new book he recently wrote, The King is Coming, where according to what he said this morning he purposely avoided that distinction, since he didn’t believe it was of much importance. I was a lot happier then – because I’m of the same mind. We know that Jesus is coming, we just don’t know for sure when.

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  7. I would hope that the rapture doctrine would have been laid to rest considering the historical proof of its man made orgin.

    Look the Lord speaks of his people fleeing Great Tribulation

    Even if there was a rapture the word of God speaks of the saints being overcome by the AOD.

    I will ride with what the Lord said here in Matthew’s. Jesus said flee.

    Matthew 24:15-16,21 (KJV)
    When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) [16] Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: [21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

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  8. We do know when Jesus will return he left us many signs. W also know Jesus cannot return until this sign happens and understand this sign happens after the GT.

    Matthew 24:27-30 (KJV)
    For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. [28] For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. [29] Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: [30] And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

    Jesus cannot come back until the heavens roll back the sun is darkened and the moon turns red. Notice it is after the GT.

    Yet we read above and before this the Lord said flee.

    This is one of my favorite verses below.

    Hebrews 13:8 (KJV)
    Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

    No where in the bible did the Lord rapture anyone anyplace.

    The God of the bible don’t change.

    This is just one example of the falseness of any rapture.

    What we also have is te rapture mistaken as the 1st resurrection.

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  9. Think about it if there was a rapture then there cannot be a first resurrection.

    The resurrection is when we he our spiritual body. This is when the Lord comes and guess what te beast and false prophet are tossed into the lake of fire. If we are raptured this to would be the time we get our spiritual body. But the beast and false prophet are NOT tossed into the lake of fire. They continue destroying the earth and it’s inhabitants. Think about it.

    Let’s read

    Revelation 19:11,14,19-20 (KJV)
    And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. [14] And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. [19] And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. [20] And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

    When the heavens open up the Lord puts these 2 guys in te fire. There time is up.

    Notice the difference in a rapture where the Lord comes and get his people and the AC and beast continue to destroy the earth.

    The rapture is manage do to misunderstanding.

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