Bro Mat has been doing some digging on FP’s discussion board archive and we had some good discussions today on his findings. One of those were on the stopping of sacrifice. This was posted on May 24 2010:
Re: ENP(I) Theory Holes
by Wickus on Mon May 24, 2010 10:57 am
Some thoughts on the stopping of sacrifice in the middle of the week:
It is a fact that blood sacrifice has not been offered in Israel for 2000 years. It is a fact that Jesus was the final blood sacrifice offered. It is a fact that the prayers and service to God as His children is a sacrifice on to Him.
It is a fact that the Bible does not call for temple or blood sacrifices to be reinstated in the end times. It is a fact that these type of sacrifice will be an abomination to the Lord.
It is also a fact that the Bible says sacrifice will be stopped in the middle of the 70th week.
Now how do we make sense of all these facts?
Here is my little theory, and it can be flawed. I will say that daily sacrifice by the Jews was never meant to be reinstated and never will. When the AoD happens, any hope that the Jews had of reinstating sacrifices will vanish like mist in the sun. He (the AC) will stop any hope of sacrifice that they ever had. Jesus said that when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you know that its desolation is near. I still see the AoD as something to do with Jerusalem being surrounded by armies like NATO (as we currently see in the news). What will trigger the fleeing of the Jews still has to be seen, but whatever triggers it will also stop all hope of sacrifice. This will spread worldwide to us Christians as we will be forced not to sacrifice prayers to our Lord.
Like I said this is my little theory, and I do not claim it to be correct.
Then we started to discuss the type of sacrifice that will be taken away. Daniel 8, 11 and 12 talks about the “daily” being taken away and it is only Dan 9:27 that mentions a blood sacrifice. In Dan 8, 11 and 12 the word “sacrifice” is not even mentioned in the original text, but was added by the translators. E-Sword with KJV+ and Strongs will show it.Now clearly a blood sacrifice was not a daily occurrence, but there were other “daily” sacrifices.
Re: ENP(I) Theory Holes
by watching on Mon May 24, 2010 7:13 am
Daniel 8, Daniel 11, and Daniel 12 speak of a “daily” [something] being taken away. The word [sacrifice] was added in by the translators.http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H8548&t=KJV
Theoretically, this could apply to the daily bloodless sacrifice of prayers being made at the wailing wall, or the daily bloodless sacrifice of prayers, or the partaking of the Eucharist, being done in Christian churches throughout the world, or any other kind of worship. (Remember, I said theoretically.)
And this theoretically can be done, by whomever the AC might be, at anytime, without the need for a temple or animal sacrifices to be resumed.
However, Daniel 9 speaks of an actual blood* sacrifice (correction: I only said blood because it involves the slaying of an animal, not that the blood was presented as a sacrifice. Just wanted to make that clear.) and it is the only reference out of the four which is not preceded by the word tamyid (daily), for one to make the inference that this is speaking of the daily burnt offerings, which were offered once in the morning and once in the evening. So, the implication is that this is referring to another type of sacrifice, such as the annual Passover sacrifice, just as the definition implies, as well.http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H2077&t=KJV
Besides that, Daniel 12:11 says,
And from the time 6256 [that] the daily 8548 [sacrifice] shall be taken away 5493 , and the abomination 8251 that maketh desolate 8074 set up 5414 , [there shall be] a thousand 505 two hundred 3967 and ninety 8673 days 3117
So, it’s already too late to try to fit this into the ENPi timeframe, because from the way I’m understanding this verse, the daily [sacrifice] would have either had to be taken away 30 days prior to the AOD, or 1,290 days prior to the AOD………unless, of course, there is some other way to understand this verse that I am not aware of.
Now if this is correct, do we need a temple and a stopping of a blood sacrifice or will a law stopping the Jews to pray at the wailing wall be all we need to fulfill prophecy.
And will the Global march to Jerusalem have anything to do with this?
Luk 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
From the base of G4756 and the same as G3977; a camping ground, that is, (by implication) a body of troops: – army.