- Please read the earlier post by Wickus about the Canary Islands and the Tsunami risk entitled “Geological Time Bomb”
Comment by Adamantine:
I wonder how any true prophet of the Bible felt about being a prophet for the first time. They must have had some concern that they were incorrect. Or at least some concern as did Jonah that God might change His mind. For myself I do not think as of yet that I am a prophet. As of now I do not think with certainty that the California earthquake is 11/11/11.
I recall however on the night of my baptism I had a dream in which “God” told me my future career. Others including the pastor of my church were skeptical. It came to pass….( or I made it come to pass)… hence I foretold the truth and the future In any case it was a forth-telling of the future and many objected that little me should have heard from God. Now should the California earthquake occur then shall I wonder too if this was functioning in the prophetic. I would allow someone who is unsure of prophetic gifts to say so. Personally if I were a Jonah (and in this I may be because I initially thought the California earthquake was coming 11/11/08. California however outlawed homosexual marriage the week before and I was left pondering that God had withheld judgment. The Bible says to desire the spiritual gifts but many Christians do not think they even exist for today. I see far less true spiritual gifting than I would like to see. I am unsure if there are any true prophets in existence today and that would be an argument against it being the end times. It certainly is another reason I would not desire to claim to be a prophet and as such I do not. I would need as much proof as any one else. I need proof that any prophet is one and I have not seen it anywhere. (I may be simply ignorant of who may be a prophet and who may not. Holly on Fulfilled Prophecy I suspect argues against such things. Then again I would like those who are against such things to ponder just what any faith means. It requires faith to pray for something as yet unseen and actually get it. It requires seeing the future faithfulness of God in action. I suspect that anyone who has faith and has seen an answer to their prayer may be functioning in the prophetic. Faith is the assurance of things not seen. On July 14 2007 I saw Gold at 666.00 in answer to prayer it seemed and thought it had prophetic implications that would mean the dollar would cease to be the reserve currency of the world. I suspected that gold would rise in the interim period prior to the setting up of a new world currency. It appears possibly to be a correct interpretation. It may or may not be prophetic. Later in 2007 when I explained this to a pastor he asked if I was a prophet. I answered no with the provision that all true Christians may have some prophetic gifting. If in thinking that God answered my prayer in that it might be prophetic. I said that in faith all Christians might be prophets. In faith all Christians might have the gift of healing. He, I suspect, thought that had I claimed to be a prophet it would have disqualified my comments. I suspect that if someone where a prophet they would eventually not be able to hide it. I simply think if some one speaks in the possible prophetic they should cease to have any financial support from man. That is not what I see defined in the Bible but my opinion.
April 27, 2011 3:17 pm
Even more Comment by Adamantine:
I do not find it a problem that there is a prediction by a pastor that the rapture occurs (or whatever on May 21, 2011). Instead I object that this pastor may have had a living provided by others for a lifetime.
There was a Dr. Eby who died a few years back who wrote a book and taught that God has shown him that he would not die before Christ came back. Well Dr. Eby died. I would hope Dr. Eby made sure he never profited by others who might have thought he was correct. If he made a profit then his was a perfect scam for this world . He was dead and gone by the time he was found out. I do not think it wrong to receive support from the church in preaching the gospel. I think it too great a risk to accept support if one is giving “prophetic” words. Prophetic words are like honey to some actually many immature Christians who look to others for hearing from God. We should all be able to hear from God. I contend that only Noah was righteous and listening. God is no respecter of persons. I will take those who say they are not a prophet at their word and not listen to their “prophetic” words. All the more i will not support their ministry if they are coming out with what may only be seen as a prophetic word.
enforcinghisgraceApril 29, 2011 8:07 pm
“I think it too great a risk to accept support if one is giving “prophetic” words. Prophetic words are like honey to some actually many immature Christians who look to others for hearing from God. God is no respecter of persons.
All the more i will not support their ministry if they are coming out with what may only be seen as a prophetic word.”
Regarding support & tithes and not meaning to get off track, but does the New Testament even give any scriptural authority to a pastor to take a “tithe” from people?
Is there even a single example of any church paying a tithe to an apostle, or even a pastor? It simply isn’t there. I believe its a man-made ritual and also believe that after the death of the testator, Jesus Christ, the Christian church was never given the law or ordinance of tithing.
Have you ever wondered if your pastor tithed and to who? Maybe to his denominational headquarters? Maybe to another pastor? Maybe to his own churches general fund which he administers? Do you think it is OK for him to know and monitor whether YOU tithe or not, yet most folks have not a clue whether Brother Pastor pays his tithe? There is no such thing as “Executive Priviledge” in God’s house.
April 29, 2011 8:10 pmRate This
I wish more people will stop following rituals.
PaulOctober 14, 2011 1:51 am0
A prophet is one who prophecies and 100 percent of his prophecies come to pass…plus he will not reject the commandments of God..or share aything outside of the word of God…