End Times and AntiChrist paranoia only increases our escapism and anxiety; it doesn’t demand the calm foresight we need to imagine other futures

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brenda-peterson/exit-stage-right-why-reli_b_983664.html

Many of us who have long been tracking the Religious Right find it anything but rapturous. Here is a dogma based in fear and the ultimate judgment: If you’re not with us, you’re doomed to being Left Behind to suffer years of Tribulations: plagues, world financial markets crashing, environmental destruction, holy wars, and an Anti-Christ who is popular and evil; he supposedly rules over a One World system that doesn’t look very white, evangelical or even American. That’s why during his election, so many Internet sites were abuzz with the question: “Is Obama the Anti-Christ?”

The Religious right, like the poor in spirit, will always be with us. But their reign of terror and blame and meanness is almost over. As the young mature into their own power and vision, the old might consider dropping their immature, polarizing dogmas — and get along with the rest of us. If the Religious Right and their short-term solutions want to leave this Earth and save only themselves — let them. That would be some kind of rapture. Then the rest of us could really get to work in saving this world.~

Comment by Adamantine:

Their criticism is  correct in part.   We do wish to leave this earth BUT we do not wish to save only ourselves.

I also agree that all of the speculation that Obama might be “THE” Antichrist is foolish.

Obama is anti-christian but he is not ” THE “AC.

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21 thoughts on “End Times and AntiChrist paranoia only increases our escapism and anxiety; it doesn’t demand the calm foresight we need to imagine other futures

  1. hi, you’ve said, “their criticism is correct in part”,…..thats the PART i’m interested in Adamantine. We have fallen, i’m afraid, into an US n them mentality, and soo much love is really truely lost in doing so. its a poverty mentality w/ a big time, limiting factor built into it. There is room and validity to and for a raise in consciousness here. Not the same consciousness expansion as new age philosophy teaches, w/ an even larger limiting factor built inti it, but an awareness elevation in light of JESUS CHRIST. After all, it was Him who said,”Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do!” This is deep in the realm of true spirituality and getting to REALLY KNOW CHRIST JESUS!, tony…blessings….

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  2. Luk 21:33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
    Luk 21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
    Luk 21:35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
    Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

    Part of our watching gives a warning to those mockers, just as Jesus and his apostles did. Let them mock, it is of no consequence to the believers. We keep our faith and keep doing our work here on this earth, being ambassadors for Jesus Christ and proclaiming his coming.

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  3. 2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
    2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

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  4. ..i certainly don’t think, speak or believe that ALL paths lead to the mountain top, which in my understanding, i’ve allways completely disagreed with in Light of Jesus’ sacraficial suffering and total/complete undeserved DEATH, … but i believe all will come to JESUS in the FATHER’s BIG, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE AGES. Ultimately, there is no “US’ and them”. The sooner we choose Jesus, the better

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  5. dear Nkosazana, God i like that name! just what exactly do you mean when you say, Tony, tony… I think your saying, [i guess its obvious] that tony your going off on a errorful tangent, and of course your saying it in a NICE way. you are causing me to smile and laugh a bit,…thats allways a great thing! but,…i really am being serious, in that what i’m saying is that i don’t believe the nonsense about eternal torrment= HELL and along w/ that i believe that God loves us GREATLY, He understands our weaknesses and our victum-ness and His PATIENCE goes beyond our weak interpretations in the christian circles. in short EVERYONE will eventually make it thru JESUS, to the FATHER YAHWEH. what is so unbelieveable about that?, really??? lets all stay friends and LOVE each other like CRAZY! Is it truely possible that a lying spirit, in disguise, is working on me? Do i dare question AUTHORITY! when they wrote the scripture did they truely convey…Perfect TRUE TRUTH? Do we believe EVERYTHING we hear? if we are truely despespertly WICKED in our hearts[like scripture- supposedly says] then why do we ALL immediately make every effort to avoid hitting chip monks and kittens and dogs etc., in the roadways with our cars? its because we are decent, good at heart and because we care! is this too simplistic??? please , give some feedback if you all can, if you all find this as interesting as i do. i will listen and try my best to consider all thats said. i hope to get feedback. I hope i’m not coming across too out of line???

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  6. Tony, it seems to me that you don’t understand the concept of original sin that ultimately put the entire human race and the whole of creation under the curse of God. We as humans have rebelled against God and if left to our own means, would never make it to heaven. It was by God’s grace that he sent Jesus to die on the cross. It is also through His grace that allows people to have faith in Him. People are given a choice while they are alive on this planet to follow Christ and enter heaven or to follow their own hearts and enter hell. Why should anyone, who is already cursed through Adam’s sin and rejects the only thing that can undo that curse, the free gift of salvation through Christ alone, given yet another chance after they are already dead and in hell?

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  7. Leo, i appreciate your comment. i truely believe that it is in no way as simple as the way you have stated it. truely. For example,when you stated: people are given a choice…Oh my brother in the Lord, some folks power to even begin to choose, has been damm near if not completely, DESTROYED by lifes circumstances. SO much damage has been cast upon soo many people, in such unfair realities thru time that whats possible for some is virtually impossible for others. i, myself was spoonfed w/ Christianity,…not so for others, which takes their chances[generally speaking] of coming to Christ in the other direction toward the negative numbers, then it gets worse, for some not only were they not spoonfed the stuff but their lives were blown to peices thru all kinds of crap, some of it unimaginable, including vicious violations of their self worth thru abuse, neglect, rape, shame, ridicule etc./// God reaches some of them in the here and now, directly, tangibly…but some aren’t reached to the pt. of them accepting Christ and joining a church and getting baptised and all that outward stuff, but, God has them in the palm of His loving hand. i do understand original sin, rebellion, and Grace. i believe that His Wonderful Amazing GRACE not only allows us to have faith in Him, like you said, but to save us even when we can’t muster the faith in cases where the damage has caused severe handicap- mentally, physically, intellectually, emotionally, willfully, spiritually, whatever! life kicks the crap out of many people, and we don’t all have the same chances to come to grips w/ the Love of God.,.. thats where Grace comes in….REAL LIVE GRACE,.. UNBELIEVEABLE AMAZING GRACE , that goes beyond human comprehension and far supasses the bounds of our weak imaginations. GOD IS BIG, HIS LOVE IS BIG, in fact its infinitely expansive……..i learned all this from my sweet little cocker spaniel, Sam. amen

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  8. there is no hell, the way they say, eternal torment. Give me a break…….GOD is LOVE,…don’t get me wrong, HE MEANS BUSINESS and RIGHTFULLY SO. JESUS went thru hell for us…ALL. now we are all involved in a mysterious process of REDEMPTION! we see thru dark glass, so we don’t see it in its FULLNESS…yet! For now you have to face the fact that you can’t touch it yet. BUT, it can touch you! Blessings…….

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  9. Tony, I agree that life is horrendous for many people. Yes God is a God of love, but He is also a holy God, who will not tolerate unholiness in His presence. People are suffering in hell because they rejected the one thing that could wash away their unholiness: Christ, who is also God himself.

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  10. “I don’t believe the nonsense about eternal torment”…..Tony there is no nonsense in God’s word. Be careful how you speak.
    Matthew 5:29
    If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
    –In this verse Jesus was saying it is a very very bad place to go, go to extreme measures to avoid ending up there. Yes God is loving…but righteousness requires justice….and he is righteous. It is all part and parcel of the same thing. It is not God’s first choice for us, but we have freedom to make decisions, and those decisions bring consequences. God fools no man, it is all laid out clearly in His word. He loves us, but if we choose to walk away from Him we will find it an eternal trip with no return, to an awful place no one wants to go. And we will have done it to ourselves, by our choices. Yes Romans indicates it will be worse for some than others,…different strips. But none of it is good. It is fine to be happy and jolly, and you seem a very sweet guy. But this is dead serious. Don’t minimize this , and cause someone to not put the weight to it, it deserves. Christ died to keep us out of that place…it’s bad, and it’s real. Nkosazana

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  11. My dear Tony

    There is a hell. Jesus is the final authority on the subject and He warned about it. Yes, Jesus did take our sins on Him and suffered greatly to save us from death and hell, but He did it for those who will become His brothers and sisters, Gods children. The unsaved will not share in this escape from hell.

    I ask you please to read in the Bible about the subject again. Please do not tell unsaved people that there is no hell. Can you not see the danger of teaching that there is no hell? The sinner will see it as a free pass to go on with his evil deeds as there are no consequence for his deeds. Unfortunately what we believe does not make a difference in what is truth. To believe there is no hell will lead to no good.

    And please also do not mistake Gods love as pushover softy love. Just as God is love, in the same way He is also JUST. Justice demands that justice must be served. You break Gods laws, you don’t repent, you die, you go to hell. Did you read about the wrath of God that will be poured out on an unrepentant world in the near future? This will be done by the same God who loves, but then His justice will be shown.

    We will pray for you Tony, but please read the Scripture for what it says.

    Wickus

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  12. Thank you very much Leo and Wickis. i hear what is being said. i certainly don’t tell non-believers not to take Jesus seriously as that would go contary to my deepest convictions. i hope to say more later. we’ll stay in prayer…sincere, quiet, ernest prayer. as well as going to the word in search of true truth. Blessings……… i do not mean to come across as radical in my thoughts as i WONDER…….about possible metaphoric meanings, rather than literal interpretations in the Word of God.

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  13. My thoughts of the Bible is very straight forward:

    Read it as it is written. Believe it as it is written. Do it as it is written, And you will receive eternal life as it is written.

    I doubt it if God will ever ask us if we have interpreted His word. He will ask if we believed His word without human wisdom woven in. Its the safest way.

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  14. i don’t believe the ungodly will literally be on fire for all eternity…

    2 Peter 2:
    6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to **ashes**, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;

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  15. Tony, you said:

    “I learned all this from my sweet little cocker spaniel, Sam.”

    Exactly what do you mean by this?

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  16. thanks for asking, Test. cause i was being real when i said that about my dog.. I do want to say Thanks, also to Nkosazana, whose last comment i somehow hadn’t seen till just now today. i am listening. /// …and now i was referring to my dog Sam along the lines of real live, sweet tender LOVE. i’m being most serious when i tell you that he has tenderized my heart.,..so innocent, so eager to play everyday, and run jump leap in youthful exuberance,..explore his surroundings, allow his true inner nature to come to life,..as in being a little spit-fire field spaniel, with swift agility and nose to the grindstone determination,…hunt, track n trace, and stay within my orbit allways knowing where i’m at as we grope in the deep woods. he allways checking on me – i allways checking on him. we LOVE each other to FULLNESS and need each other soo much and we both are full of affection for each other and i am swept off my feet. sam is the runt of the litter,..a compact little unit, so cute. hes 2.5 yrs. old and the last 2.5 yrs. has been so euphoric.The eye contact and the communication, verbal as well as non-verbal is just toooo much! /// So what i’m getting at here, with this God-sent friend[FRIENDSHIP, FRIEND], in the truest sense of the word, is AGAPE unconditional LOVE, not based on his performance nor upon his obedience, which he IS showing as time rolls by more and more of, and i do love and respect his respect for me when he listens so well.i delight in him and i sense that Lord delights in all of us the exact same way, with utter glee, yes, somehow even when our obedience isn’t at its best.//////// but listen, now as i write all this down, i am sensing that my analogy, as sweet as it may sound, perhaps just doesn’t get it. i’m thinking, its one thing to be less than perfectly obedient— but another to be completely defiant, as maybe some are when they REJECT GOD.//Now i’m going round the circle here in my reasoning and i’m not so sure what i believe on this matter. OH BOY! , bear with me, please., tony./// this is a tough subject matter… thanks for joining in Shelby, Leo, Romalynnstar, and the AMAZING WICKIS, so sincere. i love you people. ITS GOOD TO BE ALIVE!,..esp. watching for JESUS. p.s. me and sam are quite attached to each other,..he is a lover and so am i. WE are soul- mates,…my wonderful wife calls us play- mates,… but between you all and me, it goes deeper than that! To me, sam is Full of the HOLY SPIRIT! and i’m sayin’ thanks to God for bringing him into our lives,….he’s turbo charged! FULL OF UNCONDITIONAL LOVE! i have never seen anything like him and i’m Blown away!///Kate says, ” he’s just a dog”. and I said, hey hey, I’m not buyin’ into that!,/////// He’s NOT just a dog,…Sam is a chunk of Heaven on earth!/// i wish and hope and somehow still believe God the Father, thru Jesus can rehabilitate ALL that ever was,..in ways we dont fully understand because of the dark glass obstructed view that we , for now, are stuck with. We just don’t know everything in full, yet! We have to wittness JESUS and the gospel…and then , let go and let God…….

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  17. if interested you of course can google, Universal Reconciliation scriptures. It is interesting and scriptural and non threatening and wonderful. it doesn’t cancel out consequences for disobedience, and it doesn’t allow the broad path that leads to “destruction”, to lead you DIRECTLY to reconciliation with the Father. It makes more sense than that.

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  18. on that rather long post of mine[sorry], where i went on about the feelings etc., with my dog, i did mean to say Unconditional love and not agape, which i believe is sacraficial love., my mistake. its the wonderful unconditional love that pets, perhaps dogs in particular exhibit toward us that is really noteworthy and overwhelmingly nice and life changing, that i was referring to. dog is god backwards…i think dogs share with us gods love and sam has become the little love of my life, so easy to get along with and so enjoyable and he is a love bug who can move into your heart quicker than you can say slingshot. At least thats what my experience has been. and I certainly know i ain’t the only one … its universal!, like reconciliation!!,..love to all n Blessings….,tony

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