“Do not act in Syria, can not go everywhere”
“People would be in the government of Uruguay. How the importance of a country is not measured by size and population,” wrote Javier Solana on his Twitter account, the former secretary general of NATO. He was in Nairobi attending a conference entitled “Challenges to International Security” organized by the Foundation Astur. And there was a time to chat with the country.
Fernan R. Cisnero
As secretary-general of NATO or channel had to take decisions involving the sending of troops and the deaths of thousands of people. How do you make a decision?
‘I had all the wars in the Balkans without being a soldier. The important thing is always to find consensus. We have to show the virtues that has the consensus and play a catalytic role in making government decisions.
‘But the consequences lead to war.
‘Here we are not talking of war in the classic sense, where there is a loser and a winner.These are not wars, are ethnic conflicts. Operations in which it is not defeated or victorious, so that military action must be linked to politics. For peace and reconciliation are political acts. Although the road is military.
‘You agreed with the decision to go to Libya.
-I supported the decision of the Security Council for several reasons. The latest reform of the UN Charter, made during the second term of Kofi Annan, joined the concept of “responsibility to protect” that emerged after what happened in Rwanda and Bosnia.This concept had not been applied ever because there was always someone who vetoed because it was suspected of trying to dominate a country. But here was the Arab League that started the process to stop the situation Gaddafi in Benghazi. That decision is supported worldwide. There has never been so powerful legitimacy.
He abstained from China, Russia and Germany and the United States was reluctant …
Yes, reluctant to direct the operation and so they passed the responsibility to the headquarters of NATO. The resolution prohibits only one thing to deploy international forces in the field. The operation lasted longer than expected, not because there has been no negotiation attempts, there were hundreds, even with Qaddafi.
And to make a decision so, considering the political consequences in that country after the war?
-The post-Libya will be difficult because there is too much violence every year cumulative Gaddafi. So you have to help there for the emergence of a reconciliation and a government that can bring together the same objectives. It is not impossible but it really is a tribally fragmented country Tunisia and Egypt. And that is a country with less government, making it more difficult to negotiate. It is a country that went from the tribes to Gaddafi.
– Why is not the same in Syria?
-First, because you can not go everywhere. Then because Syria has a very complex political structure, is an Alawite minority, which is a splinter of Shiism in Sunni majority and an army that is not broken. So it’s going to war. And in whose name? I do not think is going to act militarily.
– How will Europe get all that is living?
‘I’m optimistic. Will succeed because the pillars are set to go ahead although there was no time. We all knew we were not able to assume an asymmetric shock, but it came before we could accommodate all the pieces to the euro is stronger. But you can do.
‘But is different from what will be entered. How will this new Europe?
-During the crisis nationalist temptations arise and we must be smart not to fall into them. There is fear of uncertainty and high unemployment, and so is not easy to maintain the legitimacy of the votes of the people and try to move with greater transfers of sovereignty. To give an example from my previous incarnations as a physics professor, institutionally we are in a metastable equillibrio. We have to reach stable.
– What lessons would have to learn Latin American experience of Europe’s prosperity?
‘We must look back to the experiences of others but also have to look to the future.Latin America is in great circumstances. Growth is wonderful, institutional stability is fantastic, the valuing of own resources is extraordinary. It is true that it depends on the growth of others, but China will grow and you have to use it right. The twenty-first century Latin America.
– And there will be a cliff over there?
-Cliffs is everywhere. But the lesson they learned well.
Name: Javier Solana
Born: In Madrid.
Age: 69 years
Other information: He was secretary general of NATO.
A world leader
He is a Professor of Solid State Physics who was summoned to star in some important facts of the history of his country and Europe. He was spokesman, Minister of Culture, Education and chancellor for the governments of Felipe Gonzalez, secretary general of NATO from 1995 to 1999 (of which there were known to be fierce critic and on behalf of which ordered the operations in Kosovo) and High Council Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy of the European Union between 1999 and 2009, where he had to deal with, for example, the war on terror deployed from Washington.
After the 11-S
Javier Solana served as chancellor of the European Union between 1999 and 2009. In those years he lived near the war on terrorism, imposed by the administration of George W. Bush after the attacks on the Twin Towers.
– What remains of 11-S?
-We are much better. Terrorism has declined although it should keep your eyes open.Al Qaeda is much weaker because it has received tremendous blows. Iraq was the biggest mistake in the eight years of Bush (as a person who was very affectionate and very intensely lived whose administration). Should have been solved differently. They thought Iraq was bad, if not better defend Saddam Hussein to Israel. But we are left with unresolved Afghanistan and Iran turned into a power that was not.
Comment by Adamantine:
It seems that the EU/NATO/UN and US have all recently undertaken a proactive ideal of the ability to intervene.
We do seem to have a new world order police in place. It may have prophetic consequences yet.