Can anyone validate this? Is it a time to act? ( Wisely and quietly?) “Keep it safe, Keep it secret” And Keep it Simple

http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=43940&p=392538

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From: jamie staib
Date: 10/17/08 11:27:52

Subject: FW: A prophetic word from David Wilkerson (Please Read) ( this is from steves daughter ) jamie staib

Subject: Fwd: A prophetic word from David Wilkerson

Read this. My goodness this is mind shaking!

This is meant to prepare you, not to scare you!
You can go to David Wilkerson website and know that he is a man of God that I respect. You can decide for yourself. I love to study Bible Prophecy, because it gives HOPE not fear! God wants his people prepared, not scared.

-David Wilkerson’s Economic Vision http://www.worldchallenge.org
Key points to remember about this vision:
1. From the time the first country goes down, you’ll have two weeks to get your money out of the bank.
2. America will come through this crisis-there will be restoration.
3. But the nation will never be as it was before.
4. God is saying: Get our lives straight… Get rid of idols… Seek the face of God in holiness…
5. God will be a wall of fire about you… And the glory in the midst of you!

It’s about to happen—very soon, one nation, and I’m speaking prophetically–if I’ve ever heard anything from God in my life, I heard it … Very soon a European or North African or Eastern nation is going to default on its international loan and when that happens, within two weeks, Mexico is going to default.
Mexico owes $100 billion —80% of it to American banks—and here’s what is going to happen: about two weeks after the first country goes bankrupt, (we’re going to survive that, because most of that (money of the first country) is owed to European banks—German, Swiss and French banks) but a second country is going to go down, probably Argentina or Brazil, and we’ll kind of live that down and say: “Well, maybe it’s not going to hurt,” but two weeks after the first country goes down, Mexico’s going to default on $100 billion.
And when the banks open the next day at 9 in the morning, $15 billion an hour is going to be withdrawn from our American banks – they’re going to be running our banks-the Arabs—all the Latin American countries, they’re going to be running our banks- and before the day is over, the U.S.A is going to have to declare a “bank holiday.”
SIX MONTHS OF HORROR:
And we’re going into six months of the worst hell America has ever seen—there’s going to be chaos—not even the National Guard’s going to be able to quiet it down—we’re going to have to call out the whole U.S. Army.
Now I’ve had visions recently, for I’ve been in New York City and I was in Macy’s in a vision, and I saw people walking around stunned because they couldn’t get their money out of the bank.
Now I’m going to give you a word of advice, the first country goes bankrupt—I’ve documented this and I’ve got it sealed in an envelope, and I’m going to call all my friends and I’m telling you—this is the first time I’ve said it in a public meeting like this—but the first country that bellies up, you go get every dime you have—church get your money out of the bank–because there’s going to be a ‘bank holiday’ and you won’t be able to get a dime for six months. Now, of course, there’s going to be -restored, but the nation will never be like it is again.
There’s going to be fear like we’ve never known—judgment at the door. When I was at Macy’s Dept. store in a vision and I watched people walking around stunned, they didn’t know what to do, they didn’t know what was happening; then a bunch of people walked into Macy’s and suddenly went wild and began to steal and within an hour everybody—I saw the spirit of everybody in the store—they were robbing and stealing—they raped Macy’s and destroyed five floors— Macy’s was raped and ruined in a period of an hour or two.
That’s just the beginning. Folks it’s all in this book (the bible) —we’ve been warned and warned and warned—you can’t tell me God hasn’t warned us. You can’t tell me God isn’t saying something awesome here tonight in this church…we better get our prayer life straightened up, our lives straightened up, get rid of the idols, as Paul writes, and seeking the face of God in holiness or you’re not going to be ready for what’s coming. God’s warning, get ready and you’ll not fear these things that come onto you and you’ll start rejoicing, you’ll not be afraid because your hands will be clean. You’ve been praying and God’s building a wall of fire around you to keep you.”
I believe this prophetic word from David Wilkerson, a true servant of the Lord, needs to be spread. May the Lord speak to your hearts and minds through it and help us to prepare both spiritually and economically for what is soon to come.

Comment by Adamantine:

Can anyone validate the first commentary you just read ? Is this from Wilkerson and when was it? I have pulled it from the Fulfilled Prophecy site but it does  not seem possible yet to prove it is authentic and from Wilkerson. From this you might see why I am both critical and supportive of Wilkerson. These are prophetic words it seems to me and yet I recall him saying he was not a prophet but a watchman on the walls. They are also possibly un-timed which puts there application in the hands of others later who must decide if and when to act.

The commentary  below is certainly from the Wilkerson web site.

SATURDAY, MARCH 7, 2009

AN URGENT MESSAGE

I am compelled by the Holy Spirit to send out an urgent message to all on our mailing list, and to friends and to bishops we have met all over the world.AN EARTH-SHATTERING CALAMITY IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN. IT IS GOING TO BE SO FRIGHTENING, WE ARE ALL GOING TO TREMBLE – EVEN THE GODLIEST AMONG US.For ten years I have been warning about a thousand fires coming to New York City. It will engulf the whole megaplex, including areas of New Jersey and Connecticut. Major cities all across America will experience riots and blazing fires—such as we saw in Watts, Los Angeles, years ago.There will be riots and fires in cities worldwide. There will be looting—including Times Square, New York City. What we are experiencing now is not a recession, not even a depression. We are under God’s wrath. In Psalm 11 it is written,“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?” (v. 3).God is judging the raging sins of America and the nations. He is destroying the secular foundations.The prophet Jeremiah pleaded with wicked Israel, “God is fashioning a calamity against you and devising a plan against you. Oh, turn back each of you from your evil way, and reform your ways and deeds. But they will say, It’s hopeless! For we are going to follow our own plans, and each of us will act according to the stubbornness of his evil heart” (Jeremiah 18:11-12).In Psalm 11:6, David warns, “Upon the wicked he will rain snares (coals of fire)…fire…burning wind…will be the portion of their cup.” Why? David answered, “Because the Lord is righteous” (v. 7). This is a righteous judgment—just as in the judgments of Sodom and in Noah’s generation.WHAT SHALL THE RIGHTEOUS DO? WHAT ABOUT GOD’S PEOPLE?First, I give you a practical word I received for my own direction. If possible lay in store a thirty-day supply of non-perishable food, toiletries and other essentials. In major cities, grocery stores are emptied in an hour at the sign of an impending disaster.As for our spiritual reaction, we have but two options. This is outlined in Psalm 11. We “flee like a bird to a mountain.” Or, as David says, “He fixed his eyes on the Lord on his throne in heaven—his eyes beholding, his eyelids testing the sons of men” (v. 4). “In the Lord I take refuge” (v. 1).I will say to my soul: No need to run…no need to hide. This is God’s righteous work. I will behold our Lord on his throne, with his eye of tender, loving kindness watching over every step I take—trusting that he will deliver his people even through floods, fires, calamities, tests, trials of all kinds.Note: I do not know when these things will come to pass, but I know it is not far off. I have unburdened my soul to you. Do with the message as you choose.

God bless and keep you,

In Christ,

DAVID WILKERSON

Comment by Adamantine:
There is much to admire about David Wilkerson’s past Ministry.
1) I would like to suggest that for those who still take the Herb Peters observations as possible then we are entering a time period of potential crisis.
2) Since we do not easily imagine that the whole theory can easily be defended once the WEU is dissolved as planned in July 2011 then we might imagine a crisis of very large proportions required to keep the institution alive.
3) If there were such a crisis would it not likely shake up our whole world?
4) If so should we not be prepared in some manner now?
While it is entirely possible that the theory of Herb Peters will take another “hit” soon for those who surmise otherwise then I would suggest this is a time to actually DO something.
What might you do?
I consider the comments by Wilkerson to be informative. He may not have known a time frame but he felt it was fairly soon.
Quote from Wilkerson March 2009″

“Note: I do not know when these things will come to pass, but I know it is not far off.” David Wilkerson

The theories we discuss on this site fortunately or unfortunately do suggest a time frame.
Neither Herb Peters nor David Wilkerson are alive today to make observations.

If they are not available to comment then I suggest others and this case “we ” will have to make observations ourselves.

I am going to suggest a time frame which was something they never did. Maybe I am being unwise but I do not think so.
I suggest that we need to ponder and pray.
5)

I suggest anyone who values the words of Wilkerson and Peters should considering acting now to be able to deal with world changing events should they occur in the next six months. Actually if the WEU is supposed to disappear in the next two months the time for acting might be now.

Take measures that are not risky to your future but that might make you be better prepared should the rest of the world be entirely caught off guard.

I would suggest doing so quietly because so far no one has come forward to take the heat and say “Thus saith the Lord” on this ;secondly because no one would listen now anyway so close to the Harold Camping error. Third because why set yourself up for derision if we (you) are wrong and fourth if the events are as dangerous as we might surmise then you do not wish for others to know you are prepared. Looting would be on the way etc. Once again do not do anything which would harm your future. I am suggesting actions which are actually self interested. I am probably wrong anyway. Wilkerson and Herb Peters already warned others. Timing would not help the skeptical. I do not think God has retained prophetic giants for us to listen now to so that we do not have to think and act ourselves. It is your call not mine.

PS: I say the exact opposite of what Harold Camping said:

I am absolutely unsure anything is going to happen. I simply think 30 days of food and some cash on hand is not going to hurt anyone. In the US anyway the interest rate is close to zero. 8)

The rest is based on logic and not revelation. It seems to me we may have entered a time when we may have to “cry wolf” to ourselves a number of times and be wrong and yet be ready over and over again. Most true Christians realize they must be ready for Christ’s return any day but they think we will be raptured or somehow spared any travail. It is possible to prepare and not be crushed if the preparation becomes unneeded. Those who buy fire/accident and insurance from theft do it all of the time. As a Christian watcher we have actuarial tables that the world knows not of. I think they give us reason to be watchful and ready for the thief in the night. It is the non Christian or slothful Christian watcher who will be caught as a thief in the night.

Well this started out as a short post and grew. It is meant as something to ponder quietly.

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4 thoughts on “Can anyone validate this? Is it a time to act? ( Wisely and quietly?) “Keep it safe, Keep it secret” And Keep it Simple

  1. The first commentary is not from David Wilkerson. I have contacted them when this so called vision started to spread over the internet and they confirmed to me that its origin was not from him.

    Wickus

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  2. Comment by Adamantine:
    So now the question is why anyone would make up a prophecy and/or attribute it to another. Was this accidental or deceit by someone?

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  3. Very good question. It does seem like the post was taken ot of The Vision and someone tried to make it current during the economic collapse. Maybe it was someone who thought that David Wilkerson’s vision of 1973 is coming to pass and tried to warn the people.

    Wickus

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  4. He has a good point but if there is a crash there isnt much point pulling your money out of the bank. Look at the great depression ( good history lesson) when paper money was worth nothing, So taking money out of the bank in that stage is pointless.
    Stocking up on food now is the thing to do.

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