Elenin. What to make of it?
Wickus here:
The following has been send to me by a fellow watchman. Like him I can not be 100% sure that Elenin is real. The information supplied is something to take note of. We will know very soon if Elenin is a hoax or a fact. It is just interesting that the climax of this event will coincide with the September date that a UN resolution can possibly start the dividing of Jerusalem… 8) Please let us know what you all make of this.
I want to first start out with a very important disclaimer. I have absolutely no way of knowing that Elenin is real, I have no way of knowing for certain that the JPS (Jet Propulsion Laboratory) is giving out accurate information to those tracking this Brown Dwarf Star, (some since 2004). In fact, I actually called the man who is at the forefront with his findings/warnings and asked him “how can we trust what many are observing on NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory to be accurate and unhampered with by the government”? He responded to say that they have gone back in history, all the way to 1965, and that all past events have unfolded in perfect sync with JPL’s data, confirming in his mind, that it is a reliable source.
Please know that I am making myself vulnerable and I am trusting you to read this information in the context of the above disclaimer, once again, I have no way of knowing what will really transpire in the coming months, however, as Brother Brian would say…..
THIS IS WHAT I KNOW:
* FACT: about two years ago, our government made a decision to no longer allow (non-government) Scientists access to their telescopes and space observations which devastated and mystified the Scientist, nobody has the equipment and resources of the government, this really crippled the scientists in their work. This article stands out in my memory and I remember forwarding it, (via email) at the time.
* FACT: the sun rose two days early in Greenland this year
* FACT: Earthquakes are on the rise, 3 of our most devastating earthquakes in the last 12 months happened when the JPL revealed a perfect alignment between Earth, Elenin and the Sun
* FACT: Not long ago an airport had to repaint their runway because the alignments had shifted so far off
* FACT: A massive seed vault consisting of millions of seeds has just been completed post haste, located deep in ice in the arctic circle
* FACT: For some reason governments have created huge underground bunkers and very large cities designed to withstand cataclysmic events
* FACT: Volcanoes have become unbelievably active, putting out ash that travels the globe and shuts down air traffic, in fact we have 33 active volcanoes right now
* FACT: There have been strange migrating animal die offs, birds by the thousands falling out of the sky dead, fish by the hundreds and hundreds of tons, washing ashore, DEAD, with no explanation
* FACT: We have all read the articles of the massive bee die off over the last few years (which by the way, bees contain magnetite in their systems)
* FACT: There have been freakish, strange weather extremes, from brutal winters to massive heat waves around the world, many breaking 1000 year old records
* FACT: Massive flooding (of biblical proportions) all over the world, today five million are displaced in China due to flooding
* FACT: Sink holes have been appearing all over the earth for several months (many, many sinkholes) with perfectly clean edges, just overnight….I don’t even forward the articles, can’t keep up with them all
* FACT: Articles have starting surfacing (over last couple of weeks) in mainstream media warning of coming solar storms
* FACT: Animals are dieting of starvation, I just read an article that eagles are literally falling out of the sky from hunger, the salmon they normally eat are in such low supply (salmon migrate using magnetite)
* FACT: The Middle East situation as described in Scripture is quickly coming into alignment fulfilling age old prophecies, culminating in what has been called “BLACK SEPTEMBER”
* FACT: There is a star mentioned in Revelation that is cast to the earth, poisoning the water and causing a profound amount of destructions/death to nature and humanity
Others who have done much research say that all of the above natural anomalies are really not a mystery and can simply be answered by the fact that a Brown Dwarf Star also called Elenin (you see the words nine eleven if you examine the name backwards….hmmmm) is moving closer and closer to our Solar System AFFECTING OUR MAGNESTOSPHERE!!!
Thanks to the Brown Dwarf Star, (which is attached to earth and other planets through magnetic portals), we are getting a double dose of magnetism which is interacting and interfering with everything that contains MAGNETITE, magnetite is in the core of the earth, migration animals, bees (and no doubt a host of other things).
Elenin’s magnetic portals are heating and growing the magnetite which is located in the core of the earth, hence, the volcanoes have become extremely active. You see, those who are lucky have a volcano in their vicinity, (although the ash is unhealthy and causes a multitude of problems) because the volcano acts as a release valve for the earth. Yellowstone (unfortunately) has no “release valve” and this is why it is bulging, should the earth give way and explodes, God help us all!!
When migrating animals get hungry, the magnetite in their tissue tells them where to go to find their food, due to the changes in the magnetosphere interfering with the magnetite in their systems, the animals are getting confused and lost never finding their food, then the animals who would eat them are getting hungry, but their food isn’t showing up because they have starved to death, hence they begin to starve as well and it has horrible domino effect.
Remember that so many people are killed by beasts in Revelation? I have always wondered about that, however, it is because they are hungry, the food chain has collapsed! Hunger makes beasts and humans alike abandon natural tendencies, the drive to survive is strong!
The bees…this also explains the bee die offs…..they are leaving their colonies in search of food and getting lost before they get back to their hive!
According to the researcher, the Poles are not shifting; they are actually migrating as the magnetic impacts continue to increase.
Now, this researcher says that the earth has experienced a little bit of a lull in anomalies over the last couple of months because Earth and Elenin have been traveling in the same direction, however, all of that is about to change! He said, the affects of Elenin are going to start getting more obvious around July 7, up to the middle of July, 2011. He said we will not need to wait until September 26, (what many think will be the worst day in this saga) to know that all he is warning of is real. Solar Storms should be getting really bad in September.
July 7, Elenin passes between the Sun and Saturn. He is thinking that the gov. may cause some horrible, national disaster as a distraction to the arrival of Elenin (people are becoming informed).
August 3, Elenin crosses earth’s orbit
September 11, (exactly 10 years to the day from the infamous 9/11) Elenin is closest to the sun, he expects this to cause terrible solar flares (perhaps knocking out power grids) as it passes from the southern hemisphere to the northern hemisphere. Elenin is travelling 300,000 miles a day, but will soon be at 400,000 miles a day, continuing to increase in speed as she approaches our solar system.
September 26, could be a devastating pole shift as Elenin moves on the ecliptic plane and sits between earth and the sun, siphoning off the energy of the magnetic portals which are naturally attached to the earth and sun. He says this could be an “Extinction Level Even” (acronym ELE, the first three letters of this star’s name, hmmmm). HE EXPECTS MUCH DARKNEWSS TO HIT THE NORHTERN HEMISPHERE AND ABOUT 10 DAYS OF HORRIBLE SOLAR STORMS TO HIT THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE!
October 17, Elenin is closest to the earth
November 22, Sun/Earth/Elenin are back in alignment, with global tectonic plates floating (due to previous damage), possible Japan like tsunamis all over the earth.
Scripture says the earth will reel to and fro like drunkard!
One more thin, remember that the star in Revelation causes the streams to be bitter (poisoned)….Fukushima, caused by an earthquake/tsunami, caused by the magnetic portals, caused by this Brown Dwarf Star have released radioactive poison the water, air and soil. Infant mortality deaths (babies are most quickly affected by the radiation) in Philadelphia have just increased by over 30% in the last few weeks!! I saw an expert (I think featured on a local news station) blame this solely on radiation from Fukushima.
Another thing I thought about. If the mark of the beast is a microchip, society will (I think) need electricity to process this form of commerce. OR, will things get soooo bad, the earth’s power grids are devastated, hence famine, plagues, etc. follow, the globe is given a unified physical currency, with a literal mark (tattoo) placed on our hand or forehead, in my opinion, a literal mark ON the hand or forehead is what Revelation really seems to infer.
The New Age story line is that we are going to go through some kind of darkness, but it is a cleansing to a whole, new, wonderful world….could this also be the pretext for the UFO portion of their lie??
Such a catastrophe could thrust us from birth pangs into hard labour and profound darkness very quickly…
WHAT I DON’T KNOW:
* Are the seals, trumpets and bowls (as listed in Scripture) written in the order in which they will unfold?
* Will they happen simultaneously or consecutively?
* How long could they take to unfold and how long would they last?
* Could Elenin be the actual star in Revelation known as “Wormwood”?
* Could we really be that far into the 70th week?….could we really be that close to the time of Great Tribulation?
Once again….I DONT NO WHAT TO BELIEVE, JUST TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF IT ALL, and I am trusting all of you to remember that this is the pretext under which I wrote these POSSIBILITIES…you all can do your own research…but there MAY not be much time.
I would welcome any thoughts!!!!
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Sounds like one plausible, terrifying way of fulfilling the ‘Wormwood’-prophecy…
In the eighties, Christians made much of the coincidence (?), that the name of ‘Wormwood’ in the Russian Bible was ‘Tjernobyl’. Might there be a connection, after all…?
Your, plausible scenario lines up, along other profetic signposts, whith the possible turn of events as described by Brother Brian and Born to Watch. We might, indeed, be farther along the timeline than realized.
Well, to cite the aforementioned watchman, ‘time will tell’.
sincerely, Angela
Bee colony collapse disorder started around 2006, which is around the time the earth’s pole really started to move (see link)
http://modernsurvivalblog.com/pole-shift-2/alarming-noaa-data-rapid-pole-shift/attachment/magneitic-north-pole-shift-400-years/
Since bees navagation system is based on an iron substance magnite in their stomach, is this why they are dying ie they are lost??
Is Elenin the underling cause ??
Many amateur astronomers have discovered the comets, etc. Does anyone know if any of them have reported on this? I remember the Niburu, or something like that thing that went around a few years back. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_collision I did not put much into it because of who started it, not sure with this Elenin one.
Genesis 7:4For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
One scripture that comes to my mind, after the flood of Noah, is this one:
21And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man’s sake; for the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.
22While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.
This is the reason I think global warming/climate change predictions are false.
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
So for sure we know stars will fall from heaven, in this timeframe here that Jesus said.
37But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Luke 21: 10Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
11And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
and of course, yes the star in Revelation.
The one thing I am sure of, is that we are told many times to be watchmen and not to fall asleep. So this is the one thing I ask Jesus for help to keep doing. We all need it for sure.
Ok let me add, I just looked this one up, think I heard something on this one, not sure. Is this a comet? or a dwarf star? anyway like I said my prayer is that Jesus help me keep watching all things going on for sure. But remember we do not take prophecy from anywhere else but our bibles. I did read in Josephus that comets were signs of doom to the Jewish nation and so who knows. But either way, Jesus will take care of us, life or death in HIM. We live forever.
I looked it up too, Russian scientist, Leonid Elenin discovered a comet that will come closest to Earth October 16th of this year. He was so frustrated by claims that it was a brown dwarf star that apparently he ran simulations on his website to show that if it’s mass was as big as a dwarf star it would have affected Saturn’s orbit already. This is one of those myths that are being mixed up with Nancy Leider’s nibiru/planet x doomsday scenarios.
I don’t follow Nancy Leider by any means but she does have some solid people that visit her site. I also don’t by into the Zeta philosophy that she ascribes too but I do believe in God and ascribe to his infinite knowledge that he gives us in doses.
This is a real event I’m sorry to say and it will come to pass. If people want to stick there head in the sand that is there choice. I am 48 years old and I have never EVER seen our planet cycling so much. I do believe what Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. Interesting Luke puts emphasis on Signs and Wonders in Heaven.
Luke 21:25-26 (KJV)
And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
I don’t think all prophecy can be understood until the appointed time. This is it on this one.
She is a bit of a loon and again I dont by all of her rhetoric but much of what she is talking about is true. There are othe people in the field that believe the same thing as she does as far as PX. The problem is that the world governments are HIDDING this for good reason. To avoid panic to remain in control and at the same time depopulate the world, giving all power to one man. These Globalists aren’t stupid. They know how to lead the sheep astray by feeding them garbage so EVEN THEY WILL BELIEVE THE LIE that all is well.
Doomsday is a real event too. It’s called the Great Tribulation and The Day of the Lord. Two events that will rock the non believer into orbit!
I’m sorry but Hopefully people will WAKE UP and pay attention to the Heavens as well. I Love Jesus and everything he stands for. I am seeking him and eagerly await his coming.
I do NOT BELIEVE THIS IS A MYTH!!! We need to REJOICE IN CHRIST in all things and know that we ARE WITNESS’S for the Most High and will be WITNESS’S to this Event, unless of course we are removed, in which I for one hope we are.
Much love to all in Christ
About his business always……. Repent!
…something tells me i’d better activate my prayer capsule….the day of judgements come, and you can bet that i’ve been resting for this testing, digesting every word the experts say….i’m counting out time, hoping it goes like i planned it cause i understand it…….the conqueror is on His way, Lord of lords, King of kings……. the focus is on Jesus Christ, Him and Him alone as God has given us a spirit of power,love and a sound mind! those in the flesh shall be fearful while we will be fearless! use us according to your will and your purposes oh Lord, in Jesus name, amen. keep us where you are….blessings to all,in Christ, sincerely, tony
….for now we know in part…..but soon we shall see clearly, for we shall be translated into the Kingdom of Light as a wonderful metamorphesis takes place and we are all changed in the twinkling of an eye……..imagine the New Jerusalem, its easy if you try…….you may say i’m a dreamer, but i’m not the only one
….the excitement escalates as we approach the zenith point of climax,……. for all intents and purposes the catapillar is dead and his body becomes nothing more than a soupy mass of disorganized genetic material as total breakdown is achieved, when all at once/ the chief DNA blows the whistle and hollars out “ALL CHANGE”… the genes reorganize themselves and what appears is a wonderful new creature, emerging from its silk palace-cucoon- a marvel in site and soon to be in flight, w/ a glorified body and WINGS,… an angel of the afterlife, w/ a built in navigation system and enhanced vision, going from black and white..to..Full living color plus+ spectrum, no longer earthbound but now able to set sail riding the air waves. IMAGINE the change God has in store for those He has called aside, who have responded to the higher calling… the riches of His glory….as we bask in the pure love of GOD, our Father, who art in heaven, in whom we place our trust,amen.
From my research, many believe that a man named “Leonid Elenin” never really existed. I must say the anomalies in his name (as mentioned in the article) would be one amazing coincidence. I have heard that comets cannot cause earthquakes as have been caused when earth, Elenin and Sun are lined up, those who studies this say there is no way its a comet.
Apparently there will be more signs in nature and weather patterns as it gets closer to earth, we won’t have to wait long to know one way or another.
Greetings. I have done lots of research on this topic. It is a real event!!! It is scripturally sound and it is coming. Nibiru is a part of a cluster of celestial objects heading this way. Comet Elenin is either a harbinger of Nibiru/ Planet X or PX itself. Based on my research the only logical solution is Yes.
The Earth changes we are experiencing all around us are a result of PX. I will post up two links that you can do some of your own research as I did and draw your own conclusions. Interesting enough this Dwarf Star, Nibiru/ PX has 7 moons that orbit it. Nibiru is also known by the ancients because of it’s long read dust cloud that trails it. I believe Wormwood, and the other event of the Mountian thrown in this sea a part of this cluster. The fire that falls from heaven could be a reference to it’s TAIL as it makes it’s pass.
Revelation 12:3-4 KJV)
And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
Is this timing coincidence that it fits so well? Also we are so close to the rise of the Beast from the Sea. What happens in Heaven happens here on Earth as well. I would expect July forward to be a bumpy ride as we approach the return of Christ.
This site : http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blog/list
This site is A great site by a Christian man who believes whole heartily in Christ. Great for those wanting to follow earth changes. We are fast approaching the Great Tribulation. http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/
I hope this helps those with an ear. When I started to come to the realization of the impact of all this it was very gut wrenching. So prayerfully consider all the facts and may God receive all the Glory.
Blessings…..
Great article. Many things in there I have been mulling over myself.
I really do think we are moving out of ‘the beginning of sorrows’ phase (Matthew 24:8), and into the ‘end times.’
I do not subscribe to any ‘pre-’, or ‘mid-tribulation’ ‘rapture’. So I’m not looking for a distinctive 7 years period of tribulation to start.
As a matter of fact I think we are already within the last 7 years by about six months.
The only time period I accept is the 42 months period mentioned in the Book of Revelation. This, it seems to me, will be the REAL end times! Three and a half years with the Antichrist and One World (Beast) system in power, and all hell (literally – with demons included!) breaking loose across the earth, and from the heavens, only to be stopped by the arrival of Our Lord before ‘all flesh’ is destroyed.
So, for me, the last 3 1/2 year period begins about half-way through 2014. And I think Our Lord will arrive sometime late in 2017.
Why do I think this?
Well, remember Matthew 24, verses 32 to 34 -
“Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.”
And Daniel 9:24 -
“Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.”
Two seventy year periods!
Daniel’s 70 weeks can just as correctly be translated as 70 years (Shavuots). I think it is a ‘dual’ or ‘multi-level’ prophecy – which I will elaborate a bit further upon below.
A generation, as in Matthew above, most usually refers in the Bible to the human life span of 70 years.
In Daniel the 70 years commences with a ‘decree’ to rebuild Israel/Jerusalem
In Matthew the 70 years refers from the first ‘budding’ of the fig tree (Israel) to the fullness of summer – the maximum of the light of the year. (Our Lord’s return). And Christ mentions that the ‘generation’ alive/born at the time the fig tree ‘putteth forth leaves’ will see the completion of the events symbolised. I.e. the re-establishment of Israel and the return of Our Messiah.
And I am pretty convinced that Daniel 9:24 (and other verses) is a ‘dual’ or ‘multi-level’ prophecy, telling us of the ‘season’ or ‘time’ of Our Lord’s First Advent 2,000 years ago in Bethlehem (the 70 weeks being ‘a day for a year’), and His Second Coming – this time as the ‘Lion of Judah’ – directly to the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem (the 70 weeks being ‘a week for a year).
Note that we are not told the precise day and hour – with good reason I should think! Too susceptible to manipulation by certain parties! – we have to ‘watch’ for that as the events count down and the time approaches. And remember that the Sanhedrin, and the Pharisees and Sadducees and the Jewish people generally, MISSED it the first time! (Though largely through wilful ‘blindness’ I think! I.e., those with vested interests didn’t want to recognise Messiah. The same is true today!)
But that’s the timeline I seem to see. And am pretty convinced of at this stage:
Start point was UN Resolution 181 on 29 November 1947 to establish a state of Israel and establish Jerusalem as an ‘international city. The state of Israel was created ‘in a day’ on 14 May 1948 – but the UN ‘decree’ was passed in November 1947. (Fig tree leaves budding)
70 years from then until completion. (Daniel’s 70 weeks as years; Matthew’s ‘generation as 70 years)
Takes us up to 2017.
Events happening now seem to be confirming the above. Especially when the Sixth Seal is opened – which I think will be the New Madrid Fault-line in central USA blowing up. Probably before the end of this year. And events of 1 – 4 Trumpets. I.e. meteors, comets, tidal waves, earthquakes, poisoning of oceans and rivers, which could easily come with the near passage of a massive stellar body. Maybe Elenin. Due to pass between us and the sun 26-29 September this year.
God tends to use natural phenomena, people and nations to exercise His judgement and wrath. If He did not, and just ‘spoke’ every event into fulfilment magically (which He does do sometimes), He would appear no different to a capricious ‘pagan’ god. On the whole, God uses the rules and laws of the natural world which He has laid down. So, in my opinion, ‘Comet Elenin’ might well be the ‘driver’ that sets off the events of the sixth seal and first four trumpets.
So I think we are in it now guys.
I think we have about 6 1/2 years to go!
“And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.” (Luke 21:28)
God Bless,
Steve
A-lad, excellent observations! I have also heard that the tail of the comet could be cataclysmic, if my memory serves me correct it is something like 500 million miles long(?) Also, scripture mentions the dragon being surrounded by 7 heads and 7 crowns, I just heard the other day that this star has 7 moons orbiting it….I am just now seeing a possible connection….just wow!
Shorttribber here.
Wickus needs to understand that we ARE, YES, that far into the 70th week.
3.5 years of it is historic….Christ fulfilled it………….Those who deny it and choose to see antichrist as a treaty maker and breaker in Daniel 9:27 will remain confused, “but the wise shall understand”.
“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom”. So, let God be true, and if you still think 7 years of the 70 weeks is still future…..humble yourself, agree with His Word and be found a liar……..then wisdom will be received and understanding will grow.
Fill your lamps…………………..on Mt. Zion His light will not be hid………..STAND ON IT.
STAND with the Sword of the Spirit…..not with earthly useless weapons against any man….STAND by His Spirit.
We will soon need to flee our populous areas to a safe place God has shown us….those who have felt no need to prepare for such flight need to now……do not delay.
The seals have been opening for nearly 2,000 years……the rider of the pale horse has already taken up his standard(flag/banner) and is set to ride very soon!
“How can that be so”? Read the opening sections of my “shorttrib/prewrath” thread at FP.
All those comments about the white,red, and black horse (and flags)were written BEFORE all the uprising and chaos in the middle-east.
Look at the color of the Arab “flags/banners” brothers and sisters……..what colors are they?
Pale/pale green/green………………that’s the color of death………….better pay attention
The AOD and the “man of sin” is “back in the saddle again”!
This is getting interesting. I can’t wait to get home to read all of this on a proper PC. A Blackberry can only do so much.
Wickus
http://eyeamsmf.blogspot.com/search/label/Elenin (scroll down near the bottom of my blog page to see the Elenin alignments)
Shorttribber again…..I moved this over from FP for any how care to read it….again this was written BEFORE the uprisings started all over the middle east.
shorttrib/prewrath
by shorttribber on Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:26 pm
Post # 2……………….The rider on the white horse represents the Pope/Papacy, consider these things:
Almost everything associated with the papacy is white, white and white. Remember the dream Constantine had of the symbol of a cross on a white FLAG; under that standard he was told he would conquer and DID conquer.
The rider on the red horse represents communism, socialism and fascism, consider this:
the red FLAGS of all of the above isms should be easy enough to place.
The rider on the black horse represents capitalism and anarchy, consider too:
Read the contents of Rev 6:5-6 and see if this doesn’t look like failed capitalism(via greed and selfishness)running headlong toward anarchy, and what color of FLAG do we see among anarchists, it’s black.
The pale horse represents the coming antichrist and his perverted blend of all of the above powers.
A. Religious power (white horse)
B. Political power (red horse)
C. Economic power (black horse)
All of these powers were given there chance to destroy the elect of God over time. But we have God’s promise (covenant/testament) that the gates of hell will NOT PREVAIL over His church! please excuse me while I take a lap and shout just a minute!…..just kiddn’……….we WIN this thing!
cont.
he brings down the fire from the sky,…..you can tell, he’s doing well, by the look in human eyes… better not compromise, it won’t be easy….WE MUST BE FEARLESS
Yes, I am extremely skeptical of anything involving information coming from “extraterrestrials” like Nancy Leider, or in pseudoscience like Zecharia Sitchin, who also believed the human origins involved ancient astronauts and interactions with aliens. I like science fiction as much as the next person, but that doesn’t make it true. I think, if we’re going to look logically at the changes that are taking place on the earth, we have to take a broader view than just what those of us living to day have experienced in our lives.
Comet or no comet, I’m just not going to get too hyper about this one. The same doctrine of imminency that many people reject in the church is the same one they’re willing to embrace from the New Age.
If one is on the one hand going to accept the so called planet x/Nibiru theory of an eliptical orbiting star that has affected the earth’s cycles to cause mass extinctions for millions of years, then you can’t also simultaneously believe that the earth is only 6000 years old with a biblical timeline. The two are just not compatible.
Its a great story, and one they used to make the film “Stargate”. But seriously, it’s pretty occultic to it’s core.
Hi sewfancy,
A person doesn’t need to accept a millions of years idea to understand the orbit of X as being 3,600 years…..the two ideas are not in conflict.
Many are claiming, in error, that planet x is the same as Nemesis. That original theory was a millions of years proponent.
Even if it was a 3600 year orbit. What historical or geological evidence suggests that there was such geomagnetic problems in 556 BC?
Well … 1600 BC – 3600 years ago – the island of Santorini (Thera) blew up in the most devastating volcanic eruption in recorded history. About 40,000 people died instantly. Tidal waves went back and forth across the Mediterranean wiping out coastal towns. The then dominant Minoan culture was completely destroyed, never to arise again. The skies were dark for days. There was a nuclear winter for several years caused by volcanic ash clouds reducing sunlight. Failed crops. Famine. Pestilence. Climate upheavals.
The Hebrews were in Egypt at the time I believe. In that 400 year ‘silent period’ after Joseph was buried ‘in a coffin in Egypt’, until Moses was called forth by God. But they probably heard Thera ‘blow’, and saw the tidal waves (tsunamis) along the northern coastline of Egypt.
But there’s your effect of the passage … 3,600 years ago! And just key in Thera or Santorini (same place) eruption 1600 BC into Google. Lot of historical research been done on it.
There are no survival zones for this sort of thing. Our ‘survival zone’ is our absolute faith and trust in the Lord.
God Bless,
Steve
Hi sewfancy,
That I don’t know exactly…….unless we could look to some of the destruction of seemingly advanced cultures that have been discussed lately on the history channel…..not exactly the becon of truth though as we all know
Well, reviewing a little history on empires, Babylon was being ruled by Nabonidus and his son Belshazzar. The Jews were still in the midst of their Babylonian exile. Assyria had already been taken over by the Babylonians and Nineveh was still in ruins. Egypt was in the midst of their 26th dynasty and was in decline. The Greeks were on the rise, just about to begin rebuilding the Temple of Artemis in Ephesus, Greek city-states were still in their infancy but their civilization was gaining ground. Cyrus the great had not quite yet taken down the Phoenicians and their advanced shipping culture, and The Carthaginian republic was going strong throughout the rest of the Mediterranean, colonizing most of north Africa and Spain.
Perhaps if there was such a thing as Nibiru, that’s why they named it that, after Marduk, maybe that was the Babylonian version of the handwriting on the wall. However, I’ll take the prophet Daniel’s version of events that it was God’s judgment that Babylon fell to the Medes and the Persians and not Marduk.
I would think, just brainstorming here, that if Planet x had come close to earth during the time frame they’re claiming it did for the extraterrestrials to communicate with the ancients, there were enough civilizations on earth with enough advanced technologies and interest in astronomy to record such an event.
from what can be determined amoung many of those cultures they did record such a series of events. And I do remember reading a connection to Marduk….but remember, just because the name came from such doesn’t mean God did not employ earthly elements to preform His will and judgements.
That is what He seemly does throughout history and in the future.
i wish to say that when i make mention of the coming of our Lord with soo much emphasis, that i am not necessarily promoting imminence., just that He’ll soon be coming into the picture,…yes antichrist will show up first/ but i am alltogether set on you know whosie….HOSANNA, and that is what any and all of this stuff means to me. The Conqueror is on His way….where the sour turns to sweet….new horizions, showdown at BigSky…will yield real true everlasting Freedom, what i like to call, home sweet home….imagine!
heck, now i’m startin’ to wonder if i’m some kind of a spaceshot. pray for me, tony…help!
Please excuse me but I just am not able to understand much of what you post tony…..I’m not trying to be an ole fuddy-duddy….but then again, maybe that’s just what has become of me……who knows.
dear shorttribber, i just post as my mind trys to wrap itself around what is overwhelmingly astonishing. i type w/ one finger and i’m kinda lazy w/ gettin’ every word in place. thats how i am w/ my hair too, i’m on the wild lookin’ side some days, but i’m aware of Jesus and the flaw in myself as i look at my flesh, and our need for Jesus as our Savior. i’m on safe ground and i know it and God do i ever feel free cause we are free in Christ. if i’m the victum of a monstrous illusion, boy its a good one filled w/ hope and joy enabling me to LOVE like crazy. i feel blessed. your intelligent! and i’m kinda smart but i get silly a lot., in a good way. i respect the beautiful people all and every where i look. i’m playful but serious about all this as its my all consuming passion. i’m imperfect, thats for sure.but going back to catapillers turning to butterflys…. miracles abound…and my little black cocker spaniel,”sam” is truely one of these God Given Gift Miracles. you should see this pup, and hang out w/ us. i have learned so much about how the Lord delights in us , from this being friends w/ this ole dog as he’s plum-full of the holy spirit and he lays it on me every day. no drug on earth could ever give anyone this kind of joy love satisfaction fulfillment. i’ve got sunshine in my stomach, like i just rocked my baby to sleep……. there i go w/ song lyrics again, this is what flows thru me. so the prophets said there would be signs in the heavens, in the sun moon and stars…all leading to the marriage supper of the lamb/ woe hey this is where i start to lose it as…” its all too much” ..i’m refering of course to the love of God and whats in store for us out upon the horizon as a new dawn seems to be rising,…night time fears, disappear. p.s. i’m in love with this beautiful little innocent dog, he restores in me what adam and eve lost. as to you shorttribber i say, how does it feel to be one of the beautiful people?! …blessings
I wish I can be surrounded by people like you every day Tony.
Bless you my beautiful friend. One day we can sing beautiful songs together before the throne of the most beautiful Being that ever will be.
Wickus
It’s wonderful, I know what you mean when talking about the love of furry friends.
Funny I was just reading your post when a fellow rang the doorbell to let me know hi dog just had pups, one or two of them are for me.
The dogs are Schipperkes, don’t know if you heard of them before but I had one along with an American Eskimo as traveling missionary partners about twelve years ago.
My Ottie died and it was so hard on me and Cindy(short for Cinderella,Otty’s lil princess).
Anyway, your writing is very poetic, I just didn’t know how to understand certain parts……that’s ok though.
Soon all of of us will love as you and more as we enter the last half of the Confirmation of the Covenant……and the words we speak are going to be more powerful than you or I could have ever imagined.
That’s just how I see it, not absolutely certain, could be wrong but we’ll see soon.
Sew fancy, I understand your concerns. I have found in my research that one must spit out many bones. No doubt because of the lateness of the hour, New Agers have become masters of deception, attaching themselves (like leaches) to many of the sign posts that we are looking for. As a rule of thumb, I try to stick with Scripture and hard news. It looks as if (from what I can see from this vantage point) this dwarf star is supported by both. The strange anomalies in nature have left me profoundly puzzled for so many months, this “star/theory” has been like a needle and thread pulling it all together forming an astonishing picture. Let us continue to watch, apparently we won’t have to wait until late September for further confirmation (or not).
Thank you Pilgrim,
I hope I didn’t come across to anyone in a condescending way, looking back on what I wrote, I could see how it might look that way in print. My concern is that we have to look very deep at where these ideas originate from, and if they’re questionable, I have found it best to discard them all together to avoid disinformation.
I don’t like mixing up Christianity with the occult, and during the time I have been watching, that’s exactly what I have seen happen. Many people are susceptible to getting worked up over every little thing, and in haste read more into what’s going on than there really is.
If God is going to use the natural world to bring about the end judgment, like many postulate, then we should look for the occurances to be in line with the natural laws. If, like many others believe it’s going to be a spectacular show of the supernatural, then why are we looking for natural phenomena? If it’s a mixture of both, its crucial that we need to be careful to appear reasonable and logical in assessments or people will discard the message all together.
Many of the warnings of Jesus and of the apostle Paul, to me the most important warnings they gave about the end times, was do not be decieved. That tells me that deception is running rampant. I often feel like I’m watching a magic show and am looking for the slight of hand, or reworking of words, in everything I read or see. It makes analyzing the world very tedious and slow, but it’s safer than jumping to conclusions.
Best to you all,
sewfancy
quoting sewfancy….
If it’s a mixture of both, its crucial that we need to be careful to appear reasonable and logical in assessments or people will discard the message all together.
Seems that’s what we are very much doing here…..there is far more deception coming then what exists now……and we need to keep our eyes open and sort it out using the plumline of the Word of God.
there is very much a mixture of supernatural and the natural coming soon and we need to know how to side with what is good and reject what is evil but we can’t avoid it entirely for fear of confusion.
Short tribber-
that is the very reason I choose to read and post at this site versus any other. It’s one of the few places where rational discussion is taking place.
I’m not suggesting we completely avoid the discussion. But what the original post was listing as a set of “facts” were not substantiated, some were misleading, and led to a conclusion based on inferences which could have many interpretations. It’s a classic disinformation technique.
As cliche as it is, the old saying is true, it’s very hard to see the forest for the trees.
To Steve above- I’m not sure how to make this post appear directly under yours, and I missed your comment before. The reason I was using the 556 BC date rather than directly subtracting the 3600 years from our current timeline was based on the Zecharia Sitchin original hypothesis.
For the sake of brevity, I’ll just repost the Wikipedia quote and yes, I know, Wiki isn’t the most respected and trusted source, but it’s fast.
Zecharia Sitchin and Sumer
Although Lieder originally referred to the object as “Planet X”, it has become deeply associated with Nibiru, a planet from the works of ancient astronaut proponent Zecharia Sitchin, particularly his book The 12th Planet. According to Sitchin’s interpretation of Babylonian religious texts, which contravenes every conclusion reached by credited scholars on the subject,[13][14] a giant planet (called Nibiru or Marduk) passes by Earth every 3,600 years and allows its sentient inhabitants to interact with humanity. These beings, which Sitchin identified with the Annunaki of Sumerian myth, would become humanity’s first gods.[15] Lieder first made the connection between Nibiru and her Planet X on her site in 1996 (“Planet X does exist, and it is the 12th Planet, one and the same.”).[16]
However, Sitchin, who died in 2010, denied any connection between his work and Lieder’s claims. In 2007, partly in response to Lieder’s proclamations, Sitchin published a book, The End of Days, which set the time for the last passing of Nibiru by Earth at 556 BC, which would mean, given the object’s supposed 3,600-year orbit, that it would return sometime around AD 2900.[17] He did however say that he believed that the Annunaki might return earlier by spaceship, and that the timing of their return would coincide with the shift from the astrological Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius, sometime between 2090 and 2370.[18]
Actually the facts listed in the article are facts, (to the degree news outlets can be trusted). As far as any inferences, that is for the reader to decide….they were listed together because combined they represent a POSSIBLE picture that one may not be able to see when reading the stories individually, spread out over time. Keep in mind the article was actually sent as an email to individuals who had already received many of the articles, over time, (via links) as they unfolded.
Sew fancy, once again I understand your concerns, however if all signs/developments must be free of occultic, new age fingerprints, you may as well not bother looking. Due to the lateness of the hour, they are EVERYWHERE, twisting, contorting, and blurring everything. Now, if this “star” is for real and heading this way, it is absolutely an act of God, not harrp, not satellites, not weather modification technology, and no power on earth can thwart it or stop it, therefore, the father of lies will attempt to spin it and weave it into his evil agenda and coming deception!
Discernment is much needed in the days ahead, Jesus said the deception will be so great, that if possible, even the elect would be deceived, we know that His grace will sustain us and keep us…He is the Author and Finisher of our faith
I have to agree with Pilgrim. I have done some studying on this since posting this article and did find many occultic believes mixed with the comet/planet approaching earth. We must separate the fiction from fact. The fact is still that this comet is approaching earth and the fact is still that Jesus said there will be signs in the stars. I see this as a sign that we are approaching great calamity. Just the thought that this comet will be closest to earth at the same time that Palestine will be trying to get their state in the UN, gives me shivers.
Now if this comet/star is Wormwood, I don’t know. If it will cause great earthquakes, I don’t know. But I will keep an eye on it until September.
Wickus
ok, one quick example of how the “facts” are misleading. The author states that it’s a fact that volcanoes are unbelieveably active. That’s not a fact, that’s an opinion. Now, we can debate opinions, and we should. But to use vague terms like “unbelievably” shoots the credibility of the writer in the foot. In two seconds I was able to do a search on volcano activity, that was addressing this very issue.
http://news.discovery.com/earth/are-volcanic-eruptions-increasing.html
I’m just using this as an example, but a good one, because I do care about active volcanoes. I live 25 miles from the summit of a volcano and if volcanic activity is increasing unbelievably, I would want to know about it.
none of us want to be misunderstood, thats for sure, so thanks for giving my words a listening to, and thank you wickis for you most kind response as well as yours also shorttribber. good luck w/ the new dog{s}! sounds like your in for some genuine joy! the missionary work along w/ your friends there had to have been quite rewarding to say the least. wow, good for you. sorry to hear about ottie, no doubt it was sad.i have never heard of a schipperke, i’ll look it up on google. i crave eternity like we all do, so i wish this comet is connected to prophecy and ultimately brings us closer to home, amen
Sew fancy, people can and should do their own research, use some critical thinking skills, and come to their own conclusions. Frankly, the hour is so late that I am no longer interested in taking time to convince anyone of anything.
IF this brown dwarf star is real and IF it is arrives with catastrophes, I hope people will not be as shaken, I hope they will remember that God in His loving kindness and mercy warned us ahead of time in Scripture, and HE is in control! Our response is not to be that of fear but to look up, our redemption is drawing nigh.
Even so come Lord Jesus!
Thank you to everyone for your invaluable input, it has been an interesting discussion indeed!! And thank you our dear Wickus for being such a faithful watchman
i’m w/ you there pilgrim.wow that sounded like something off of john wayne. the duke! yea, wonders in the heavens make us wonder…and you know speakin’ about wonders and heavens brings to mind the word cosmic/ well i like that word cosmic but its just the way that those govmt folks tend to use it that offends my sense of survival. all that talk of cosmic weaponery and starwar battlin’ stations and bullett guns designed to inflict pain all over r bodies ever-where. i hate when they do that!
If it is truly Wormwood, we will never know….at least in our current form. I am a little skeptical that it is Wormwood though. That would mean a lot, an awful lot, needs to occur between now and this November. Basically, apostasy (if it isn’t already) the anti-Christ has to be revealed, defile the temple, catching away, and the first two trumpets within the next 5 months.
Hi angie95,
All the things you’ve mentioned are presupposed ideas…… you should look into shorttrib/prewrath to see how all of it could easily fit together….and probably will.
The things I mentioned are from the Prewrath viewpoint. Is this shorttrib thing different? Regardless, there is a lot that still has to happen in the next 5 months if the comet/star is Wormwood.
Oh yes, very different………..basically much that many think need prophetic fulfillment has already been accomplished.
It is essentially an historicist/futurist understanding of prophecy.
And I also agree things are going to come together in a jiffy.
I complete outline of it is on the front page of FP……… called “shorttrib/prewrath”
Front page of the forum that is
shorttribber, can you link it for me. I cannot find it. I am assuming FP is Fulfilled Prophecy and I see you post a lot there. I have looked through several pages of what I thought would be logical sections and I used the search tool. Thank you!
I cannot agree with that theory. Verses Rev. 8:1-6, specially verses 1-2, contradict the trumpets and seal occur during the same time. After John saw the seventh seal broken he saw the 7 angels who were given 7 trumpets.
Have you looked into what I’m saying closely? The 7 trumpets overlap only seals 4-6.
the seals must all be broken in the vision for greater revelation of the vision itself.
i know a doctor, he’s a surgeon and he’s written some books/ at least one on prophecy called,” After the Rapture”…he believes that the apostasy is a departing of the bride at the rapture and that the rebellion is a rebellion against disobedience, against the antichrist/beast/?new world order system. a different spin?? could it be? not too many bible scholars nor students of prophecy have come to this conclusion that i know of…any feedback?
Ah Tony, what your surgeon friend or what you expressed makes no sense to me at all.but I have heard that some people are saying that the apostasy/departure is referring to the pretrib rapture, which i do not agree with at all.
lets see here Royalmstr, dr.Pitcher told me once { its been a while since we’ve spoke}, that instead of focusing on the timing of the rapture, lets focus on, {ARE YOU READY FOR THIS ROYMSTR,and all who care to read this and ponder/discern} he said lets focus on making sure we legally leave our assets to the jews! This is his understanding, not mine, however i do at times wonder if he is aware of something that a lot of others are not aware of??? i mean He’s a doctor, i’m more like a dirt farmer in comparison. i would look to him as a mental giant in relative terms; however that does’nt automatically make his understanding and his conclusions necessarily correct, as any of us know, one thing we all have in common is that we are all human and its human to err. O.K. now i’ll page thru his book to convey more details-wish me well on this venture, as in HOLY SPIRIT guidance. btwn me and all of you, in the meantime, we see that paul said in thessaloanians that THE DAY OF THE LORD won’t come{ i understand this to mean the day of GOD’S WRATH being poured out upon the earth} until the apostasy happens and the son of perdition is revealed as well. Could’nt it be the case that the rapture possibly takes place perhaps right before the antichrist is revealed, as in REVEALED FOR WHO AND WHAT HE TRUELY IS, meaning at the actual AoD! and if thats the case, and i’m just saying if, then could this be at mid-trib or better yet even be beyond mid pt. and somewhere in the time line of what folks refer to as PRE WRATH… and if so, could’nt that maybe be someday soon! i mean does’nt it appear as tho we are in the first half or beyond,.. of the trib now?!! it does to me!w/ the ugliest most distressful part still to come as things continue to escalate. So pitcher could be correct w/out subscribing to pre-trib theory. at least that is the way i see it, logically. tell me what you think of this post,in its context. we know what paul said. we know how pitcher defines apostasy-as rapture. ……..and we all know lawlessness will abound as the love of many waxes cold as times get worse and folks react from their flesh, operating from instinct w/ dog eat dog carnal-mindedness, soo obsessed w/ physical survival and so stricken w/ fear. They will be engaged in doing nothing less than worshipping the image of the beast; their fleshly worldly earthly minded selves., as all hell breaks loose on earth and the Bride is taken away and our souls ignite w/ the joy of His Presence, the bridegroom, JESUS!
I guess I should also have said it is on the front page of the debate section of the forum….sorry…..here it is
http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/discussion/viewforum.php?f=13&sid=50cc1128c61d86b70f5b242ce215da90
For some reason i couldn’t copy just the shorttrib thread alone so I copied the page it’s on….you’ll see it there about 8 lines down or so.
Take your time with it….may be a lot of new info for ya…..
thanx for the interest by the way
I guess I spoke to soon, Mt. Rainier is having unusual rockslides. Keep those of us at the foot of the mountain in prayers, we can have terrible lahars with or without an actual eruption. Another reason why I’m a huge advocate of food and emergency preparation!
sewfancy, God be with you and yours, sincerely, tony in vt. i used to live in oregon, the southern part of the state,it was WONDERFUL. i don’t remember if mt. Ranier is in org or Washington, but i do remember drinking some ranier beer with my kin. by the way, concerning my last comment on Dr. Dave Pitcher’s book and his research, he’s on face book with a discussion board on his ideas. if interested, its “after the rapture, passing the torch”. i’m about to open a facebook acct and try to connect. i spoke briefly to him over the phone today. he strikes me as a surgeon w/ his handling of God’s word. again, bless you all sewfancy, that you’ll be protected.
howdy folk, if you google” where is elenin now,june 2011″ some kool sites come up. p.s. i like that song, “Lets Get Together” by the Youngbloods… comon people now, smile on your brother… also Paul Balouche is a wonderful christian singer,songwriter….. see you all there, prepare for Liftoff…….
Hey Wickus, like you said, we’ll be a singin’ r hearts out to the Most Beautiful Being EVER… this is so TRUE and sends chills up n down my spine! you have hit the mark/bullseye w/ that one. tune up yer singin voice, this here is cause fer a shin-dig!… and Shelby’s gonna BEE THERE!
Hi Tony,
i dont believe the rapture can occur until the antichrist is revealed.
2 Thess 2
1 concerning the (*coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered unto Him), we ask you brothers, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the (day of the Lord) has already come. 3 dont let anyone deceive you in any way, for (*that day) will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed.
what day will not come until the man of lawlessness is revealed ? verse 1 the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to Him.
Hi shelby,
I agree with that as you know….hope you and Tony don’t mind my jumping in here but I wanted to mention the the thread I started at FP.
I don’t know if you’ve looked at it yet but it is called “a new look @ Daniel 9:27…really”.
I would like to have some input on it from you (and Tony also)…..hope you don’t mind my asking here.
It really is something that you might find very interesting.
Hey shortribber, im reading over your thread at fp. i enjoy reading your posts. im ready for the show to hit the road, as we all are…beam us up LORD.
Thanx Shelby……..I’m ready to have Christ in us so mightily that the wind and sea obey, that we shut the mouths of the wicked and cause the Word of God to be heard from Mt. Zion.
Be ready for part two of the Confirmation of the Covenant….The covenant God made with Abraham that Christ will complete in a people that were not a people but have come into fellowship with Christ by faith.
Get ready for the maturation of His Body that is soon to grow up unto the fullness of the stature of Christ.
“The Testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy”……….soon the entire Body of Christ will understand the meaning of it!
blessings
good point shelby, alltho i will need to go back to look again cause the day of the lord is one of wrath but wait , like you said, that day may not be referring to the day of the Lord but to our gathering to Him of all hims! thankx for the clairification. i feel like i’m finally at the point now where i know absolutely nuthin’ for sure and am in need of a fresh start from a blank slate. i may have gotten myself tangled up in all the puckersnatch of verses and intrepretations over the years here, to where i need to unclutter some, and look again.!Steer me right, sweet Jesus! i’ll also try to get to fp’s discussion board,…thank shorttribber, i’m alltogether interested./ whoops, oh boy, i just went back and looked at it and it still seems to me that he refering to the fact that “the Day of the Lord won’t happen, till apostasy and revealing of the evil one. as if to say we will not see him sit in the temple and claim to be God, cause we’ll be gone, snatched away! humm…..?/ could the rebellion be christians rebelling against the new world order’s future dictates?, you know, before mr. man takes his seat of full-blown deceptive power?
i mean yes it concerns our gathering to Him, but specifically, it seems to me like that day, is The Day of the Lord/ that awful day of vengence and darkness that the book of joel and amos and zaphaniah etc. speak of……
hey tony, the day of the Lord is the day of wrath for the wicked and the day we go out and leap like calves released from the stall.
Malachi 4:1 surely the day is coming, it will burn like a furnace. all the arrogant and every evildoer wil be stubble, and that day that is coming will set them on fire, says the Lord Almighty. Not a root or a branch will be left to them. but to you who rever my name, the sun of righteousness will rise up in its wings. and you will go out and leap like calves released from the stall. then you will trample down the wicked; they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day when i do these things, says the Lord Almighty.
shorttribber you wrote
“I’m ready to have Christ in us so mightily that the wind and sea obey, that we shut the mouths of the wicked and cause the Word of God to be heard from Mt. Zion.
Be ready for part two of the Confirmation of the Covenant….The covenant God made with Abraham that Christ will complete in a people that were not a people but have come into fellowship with Christ by faith.
Get ready for the maturation of His Body that is soon to grow up unto the fullness of the stature of Christ.
“The Testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy”……….soon the entire Body of Christ will understand the meaning of it!”
Amen and amen beloved of the Lord!!
In a quick post to Adamantine on June 25th I quote ” What has been most profound is that I had asked that the Lord affirm this to His own.It is as if we are seeing the spirit of Elijah in operation as He answers the prayers of the righteous- If I may, here are a few scriptures He has being confirming these past few days.
2Ti 3:2 ,Rev 21 , Hbr 13:4; Mar 7:21; Act 15:20,29; 1Cr 5:1-6,9-11; 1Cr 6:15-20; 1Cr 10:8;
2Cr 12:21; Gal 5:19-21 Eph 5:3,5; Col 3:5; 1Th 4:3-7; Rev 2:20-23; Rev 21:8; Rev 22:15″
Not only do your words resonate in my spirit but am profoundly blessed thank-you
The Lord has given me 5 stones to DEFEAT my Goliath and do pray that you will keep me in prayer as I do you.
1) Zechariah 4:6
Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.
2) Revelation 12:11
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb,
3) and by the word of their testimony;
4) and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Revelation 12:10-12
5)
Isaiah 55:11
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Isaiah 55:10-12
Also Tony..luv ya in Christ brother and need you to know how much I appreciate your true genuineness and honesty, you bless my socks off !
This is what’s on my heart the past few days- be blessed
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev%2012&version=KJV
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=is%2014&version=KJV
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians+2:15-17&version=KJV
Agape, Coll
Hi Hisown,
I just found your response….I never got an email head-sup like I usually do.
Glad to hear of the work the Lord is doing in you.
I had been heavily in Zechariah the past few weeks…….need to read the texts you posted now.
Koinonia and blessing
You are answering a question with a question. Rev. 8:1-2 it says “When the Lamb broke the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and seven trumpets were given to them.” How can any of the trumpets occur during the first 6 seals? After the 7th seal, the seven trumpets were given to the angels. This does not leave a lot of room to say the trumpets started at seal #4.
it’s simple….How can an author write in a book, an introduction that speaks of many things at the beginning, middle, and end of a book on the first few pages of the writing?
it’s much the same in this case, the seals are very introductory in nature and very condensed. There are many areas that do not proceed as 123456789 and 10 through the entire revelation……..example: Chapter twelve (the entire chapter)IMO is a vision “enveloped within” the main vision that covers an expanse of time from Eve all the way until immediately before the gathering of the saints.
Before rejecting the idea, please read the rational given for the sequencing
look a how Gary put it in perspective on his 7/9 11 post, titled lots happening in 2011: over at www. unseald .org The thief in the night idea is really something to ponder. tony in vt.// also, shorttribber, your analysis over at fulfilled propecy is the same, something to ponder, absolutely amazing concerning Jesus’ out stretched arms on the cross and dan. 9:27// please phone me, if you would, at 802-380-1648, if you ever get the time. blessings, tony in vt.
Thanx tony….I’ll give ya a jingle
FACT You are qrazy : if an opject make so much trouble- it should be in a near moon di-
stance having a mass like a small black hole-(Inappropriate use of God removed by Wickus)
bkp dk.
Hi Bjarne
Do you mean I (Wickus) am crazy (hope qrazy is crazy), or one of the people commenting or all of us? Can you explain why strange things happened while Elenin aligned with earth? Is there anywhere in the post a place were I said that all of this is fact?
Please give us some constructive criticism, as it is always welcome.
PS. I removed the name of the Lord from your comment as I believe you were talking to us and not to God.
Wickus