(NIV) Dan. 9:27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one “seven,” but in the middle of that “seven” he will put an end to sacrifice and offering.
And one who causes desolation will place abominations on a wing of the temple until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. ****************************************************************** (KJV) Dan. 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
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(NAS) Dan. 9:27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”
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1 Co 14:33 (KJV) For God is not the author of “confusion”, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
(emphasis is mine)
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As you can see I have posted three versions of Dan. 9:27…..the first one was used in the article by Ted Montgomery from the NIV bible…..the second one I posted in my comment on 6/17/08 from the KJV……Gordon posted the third one from the NAS in his comment on 6/18/08.

Needless to say, there is not much ground for an intelligent, Christian discussion with this “confusion” between Bibles.

Referring to the Book of Revelation: you CANNOT change the wording of the Apostle John’s visions (or anyone else’s for that matter) without changing the message/meaning of the vision.

I compared several verses in Rev. with the NIV & NAS versions and found “confusion” between them and the KJV.
This is sad since the users of these bibles (and others) will seldom agree on the interpretations of the visions, or anything else, affected by this “confusion.”
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KJV – John 14:5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
KJV – John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
The 144000 from the 12 tribes will have to be Messianics or the words of Jesus, in John 14:6 ,would be nullified.
God Bless

There was a covenant created in 1992 by the Nation Israel stating that Jerusalem would be the eternal
capitol of Israel, never to be divided. It was sealed
with Psalm 137:5 & :6

Ps. 137:5 If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right
hand forget her cunning

:6 If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave
to the roof of my mouth, If i prefer not Jerusalem
above my chief joy.

This Covenant was voted into Law by the Knesset,
and it was encased in a glass case in the
Knesset.

The reason this Covenant was made with the city of
Jerusalem was because the Jewish people
anticipated the division of Jerusalem by the Oslo
Accords and of course we now have the Road Map.

When Ariel Sharon got elected, the media did not
give much coverage due to the fact the people voted
“conservatively”. However, Sharon & the throngs of
people went up on the Temple Mt. and he repeated
with the people Psalm 137:5 & :6. From that year,
2000 when this took place, I have always asked the
question was that a “confirmation” of the covenant !

I have never seen this Covenant mentioned by any
media. Could this Covenant be a thorn in the
flesh so to speak to those who are trying to divide
God’s Holy City ?

God Bless . . .

“Jo”

Fred asks: “However, IS it possible that it is referring to a covenant God has made with the Church and all of the people on earth?”

26 “ And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”

NO. The prince of the people to come are Romans. Titus lays waste to Jerusalem during the Passover in 70 AD and the temple burnt down. “He” is the dark prince, not the Messiah.

It is the prince to come that causes sacrifice and oblation to cease and it is the the same prince that sets up an abomination that causes desolation to be set up on the wing (pinnacle) of the Temple.

Yes, the Temple Mount must be ritually cleansed by the ashes of the Red Heifer before they rebuild the Temple & I believe the Ark must be found, but realize that the Dome of the Rock sits on the Court of the Gentiles. The fact that YHWH seals 144,000 of the 12 Tribes of Israel illustrates that YHWH hasn’t completely given up on the Jews.

RE: the “holocaust” of abortion, our Lord is not blind. In many nations, if not all, murder has occurred.

As for the U.S., it is my belief that it is the Lamb/Dragon beast that arose from the earth in the presence of the Leopard/Bear/Lion beast (Islam – Syria was once part of Greece). It was the U.S. that caused fire from the sky to deceive all nations and set up an image to the LBL beast (radical Islam aka Al Qaida; OBL was CIA). The U.S. is also responsible for manufacturing the RFID chip (mark of the beast) that must be implanted in the right hand or forehead (those are the greatest sources of heat produced from the human body that power the chip).

It is GWB on the white horse who is wearing the wreath crown of competition that is bent on conquering that will meet up with the man on the red horse who will take peace from the world (Ahmadinejad) with his ‘large sword.’

“But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” (Luke 21:34-36)

Hi yawl:
I have never been an advocate for the accepted version of the oft-quoted Daniel 9:27.
I wonder what the ramifications would be ‘IF’ the temple was rebuilt and animal sacrifice was reinstated.
How would God view this?
The Jews were in exile and continually persecuted for 2000 years, Jerusalem sacked, the temple destroyed and 6 million Jews were killed in Hitler’s death camps for their rejection of their Messiah,the Son of God.
I doubt seriously that God will allow His chosen people to commit such a serious offence.
This may very well be the reason God has allowed the Palestinians to retain control of the Holy mount; to prevent them from committing another ultimate insult!
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As we all know, Daniel was a prophet to Israel; John the apostle was the prophet to the church.
John’s visions deal with the 70th week almost exclusively. Daniel’s prophecies also deal with the 70th week, but they were sealed, by God, until the end times.
John’s prophecies are not sealed (except for Rev. 10:3), however, the meanings of his visions are ‘concealed’ by virtue of the symbolism in his visions. The prophecies of these two prophets do agree on certain events and confirm these events, as we all know.
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Dan. 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
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The covenant that shall be confirmed is taken as a peace treaty between Israel and another nation or nations.
However, IS it possible that it is referring to a covenant God has made with the Church and all of the people on earth?
Is it possible that Daniel and John the apostle, in their visions, saw the same nation destroyed ‘even unto the consummation’ (completely)?
Is this nation that is to be destroyed engaged in sacrificing/oblations that is an abomination to God?
Is this nation Babylon the great (the U.S.A.)?
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Psalms 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
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In the later part of 1998, sometime around September or October, as I recall, an article in the New Orleans Time-Picayune caught my eye.
The caption over the article stated that there had been a significant drop in the national abortion rate in the past two years.
Since the Roe Vs. Wade case in 1973, which led to the legalization of abortion in the Unites States, there had been an average of 1.8 MILLION abortions per year. However, in 1997 & 1998 the abortion rate dropped to an average of only 1.6 MILLION abortions per year.
This, of course, means that from 1973 until this time (2/1/00), that over 45 million living but unborn children, children being created in the image of God, have been sacrificed to ulterior motives!
Just think, the abortion rate for the past 25 years exceeds the population of New York and Florida!
((Note)) …..This a excerpt from an article I wrote in Feb. 2000.
Eight additional years of abortions would be over 55 million! And that is a very conservative estimate!
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When 1.8 million is divided by 365.25 the daily sacrifice is approximately 4,750 abortions per day!
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And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week.
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John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
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The rapture of the Church will confirm verses 3:16 & 318.
These verses are God’s covenant with all people living on earth and will be confirmed by the rapture of the Church in the midst of the 70th week.
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Matt. 26:61 And said, This fellow (Jesus) said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days.

By His own words Jesus became the Temple of God when He walked out of the tomb.
He also became the head of the church.
He was also the crucified and resurrected Christ.

This is the temple that is referred to in Rev.11.

Rev. 11-1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

Easton’s Bible Dictionary:
Reed: It is used to illustrate weakness. A “bruised reed” (Isa. 42:3; Matt. 12:20) is an emblem of a believer weak in grace. A reed was put into our Lord’s hands in derision (Matt. 27:29); and “they took the reed and smote him on the head” (30).

The Jewish people were expecting their messiah to be a warrior.
They fully expected that their messiah would lead them against the Roman Legions and free them from captivity. Jesus came as the “weeping messiah” teaching love and forgiveness.
However, He shall return and defeat the enemies of Israel and the unrighteous.
He shall rule the nations of the earth with a ROD of iron.
Thus “a reed like unto a rod” is symbolic; referring to His seeming weakness as the weeping messiah, but in reality He is like a rod of iron, a symbol of strength.
It is Jesus (the reed like unto a rod) measuring the FAITH of them who worship in the Temple (Messianics), who accepted His sacrifice on the cross (altar).
This is NOT the rebuilt temple on the Holy Mount. It is the spiritual temple, built when Jesus Christ stepped out of the tomb.

Everett: You see, it is not the thinking that gets us in trouble; it’s when we write it up and post it – that’s when the trouble starts (lol).
God bless you, my friends!

“The Vice President assured the CER delegation that he regards attempts to restrict Jewish ritual slaughter (shechita) as contraventions of EU law and said he would be contacting the Belgian Interior Minister over the issue following attempts in the Belgian Senate to place restrictions on shechita in Belgium .” Jerusalem Post

FYI: The 84 month duration of the 70th Seven in the article does not take into account Daniel 12:11,12.

“And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.”

Jubilee prophetic calendars like the ones Daniel would be familiar with contain 30 day months and leap months on Sabbath and Jubilee years. If one counts 1290 days from the halfway point of the Seven (1260 days), we arrive at 1 Arar II in the Jubilee year, the day the abomination that causes desolation is set up.

The reign of the beast, according to Rev. 17:12, is one prophetic hour (15 days) which Matthew 24 indicates will be cut short by our Lord. The angels will gather the elect and the blessed who wait the 1335 days will be blessed at Passover (the anniversary of the Exodus).